Anatol Titan

Prosperi-Tees

he was joking lol.

The dback servo machine is probably the best bang for the buck. The titan is not the comparable machine to it. The comparable would the horizon.

californiadreamin

Hey Printwizard!
The original post was just a little odd to me and I threw back
a little unwarranted sarcasam! kinda like someone living in New Zealand
asking if there was any wool available near by. Yeah! Hello! only the best in the world! Or a customer coming in your shop saying I need a price on alot
of shirts. You say what's alot? Oh I am not sure. Can you have them soon?
when do you need them? Oh I don't know 10-12 weeks, maybe? You ask
what are you looking to spend? Not to much, but some, as long as we
get alot. No specific questions, with out specific details, on a major capitol
piece of equipment, in the general location, of close proxemity to a number
of major companies. I would hope the customer, did their own due diligence,
when so much info and inspection to gain knowledge, is right in their own
back yard. Or they could ask us, and not get that level of hands on understanding! If they don't understand doing their homework, then they should print by hand,until they do. It also had the start in my mind of
a this press vs. that press conversation with no specifics, and a my press is
better than your press conversation based on what? My mistake! I did not do my homework!
winston

californiadreamin

The 23''x31" od screen size was first used and made popular by Precision
Screen Machines of NJ. Since there machines were very popular they
set the standard for "other" to follow in the USA market.
The Squeege /Flood bars, manual clamps ,etc were made popular by
American Screenprinting Machines of Chicago ,Il and got their ideas from
European graphic screen print machines but reduced to the standard 1" sq
tube.There are minor changes, of this basic idea but it stands as the "standard" in the USA market.
The aluminum pallet is another idea from American Screen Machines, but the
white rubber was used to cover the screw heads on the pallet top, so marks
from the screw heads didnt show up in the print. The white rubber has become
the "standard" in the USA market,but is not the #1 choice throughout the world. There are alot of different ideas,and schools of thought on rubber vs.
flat surface, weight of rubber,with and without throughout the world. The
Aluminum extrusion that mounts most of these palllets in the USA comes
from M&R, as well as 25"x36" od screen size.
winston

Gilligan

I agree... the screen size is a limiting factor. I do happen to be sitting on 60 MZX 18x20's so it does kind of say "run with it" to me.

If I went with anything other than the Titan I'd be knocking down a wall and losing an entire room that was meant for something else.

@Printwizard, I know I'm a fairly new guy to this biz but when Newman (hard to argue they aren't a standard) makes 23x31 as their smallest "auto screen". But I'm pretty new and ignorant to this industry, but like it or not, that is the "standard" size for everyone now.

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Prosperi-Tees

Will the 18x20s fit the Titan? I wonder what kind of print size you could get out of them on a Titan.

Printwizard

Thanks for the history lesson, all makes sense. I like the idea of standardization across all machines. I have about 6000 screens, envy thing stays up in the uniforms world for repeat jobbies. Amongst all the accumulated and hoarded stuff I have is a couple hundred precision oval screens with the bits in the ends, maybe they'll fit a Mustang. I think ive still got a crate of squeegees and floods off the precision somewhere too, if they fit bonus, if not, scrap Ali is getting good money these days!

I understand the dreamer question now. Yup, all MFGs tend to have good info on their websites, and there is a lot of info, might pay them to read a lot more before they ask questions. Even Tradeshows as eyeing in the states means they're virtually local, a cheap plane trip.

inkman996

Open up any supplier catalog in this country to the prestretched screens page and all you will see is manuals @ 20"x24" and autos @ 23"x31". That size is a standard not set by M&R at all but by printers them selves over the years. There is other sizes readily available for bigger prints of course and you can get custom sizes as well, but 23x31 is by far the most common M&R available. Brandt could have just as well bought a different press that uses the 23x31 not just M&R

Gilligan

Max screen size is 21x28 and they are side clamps, so I'd think you could bring those side clamps in enough to grab the 18x20's.

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Dave Zimmer

Hi -

Check out the Diamondback L. Up to 7 colors, servo-drive indexer, takes 20" x 24" screens and only 8.5 feet in diameter.

http://www.mrprint.com/en/ProductOverview.aspx?id=142

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Gilligan

Good call... I did not see that they had one that small.

How small can it break down to? I'm trying to avoid putting in a double door in the back of someone else's building at my expense.

Granted you do give up some print space. The titan can do 16x16

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