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Old March 13th, 2012, 02:28 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Good call... I did not see that they had one that small.

How small can it break down to? I'm trying to avoid putting in a double door in the back of someone else's building at my expense.
There is an option available to break it down for crating and shipment so that it will pass through a 38" wide doorway.
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Old March 13th, 2012, 03:26 PM   #22 (permalink)
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That small of a print size is a killer. I think the Titans 16x16 is even to small.
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Old March 13th, 2012, 04:48 PM   #23 (permalink)
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The Titan can fit in a 28" door with the special options package...

I installed one a few months back!!

Yes the image area isnít huge, but 16" x 16" is impressive for this size press...

A 6/8 is only 9' 4" diameter, and the 5/6 is a tiny 8' 2" diameter!!!

And yes Gilly... They can use the Newman 18 X 20 Frames!!
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Redundant question (as I emailed it to you already) but maybe it would be good for the masses.

What would the print area be on an 18x20 roller?

I know on the Diamondback L it's only 11" top to bottom, meaning you give up like 11.5" of screen to make that print with a 20x24 frame. If I put on a 18x20 I'd be limited to 8.5" top to bottom of a shirt? That's probably assuming squeegee and flood are set to 0 degrees.
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Redundant question (as I emailed it to you already) but maybe it would be good for the masses.

What would the print area be on an 18x20 roller?

I know on the Diamondback L it's only 11" top to bottom, meaning you give up like 11.5" of screen to make that print with a 20x24 frame. If I put on a 18x20 I'd be limited to 8.5" top to bottom of a shirt? That's probably assuming squeegee and flood are set to 0 degrees.
What is the ID of the frame??
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I may be wrong but the "L" is for tagging and small subtraits. For normal printing you would want a XL or S.

The Titan has side clamps so depending how you position your flood bars and squeegees you could conceivably print 11" or more with the 18 x 20. There are quite a few of them out there so they must be able to produce a decent size print. We rarely print anything over 14" ourselves. Sounds like you just need bigger frames.

To fit a larger press into the building you could cut a hole in the wall or just cut out the area of the door to fit the machine kind of like a cartoon runs through the wall. When we got our first autos they were in an old bolck building and I simply just knocked the wall out to get them out.
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Brannon... umm, 18x20 Newman 18x20's are labeled by ID.

Brian... Yeah, but bigger frames = bigger radius for the press... you have to slide those puppies in from somewhere.

They can claim 9.5' footprint all they want... but if you want to slide in the 28" long frame (the max it can handle) you need another 4.5' added to that diameter making the "effective footprint" 14'.
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Jiggle and twist. I think you would be surprised what you could fit. Don't forget the screen holders are set in, not out to the ends of the print heads so you already have at least 6" head start.
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Things to keep in mind:
- Diamondback L features a standard servo-driven indexer.
- Diamondback L cycles MUCH faster than any other press anywhere near its price.
- Diamondback L features M&R's exclusive, patented "Revolver" program, which allows printing and flashing in any sequence, and even without losing use of a print head. So, a 6 color Diamondback can print 6 colors even when flashing, no matter how many colors require flashing. Revolver is something that you may not use every day, but it will enable you to print jobs that wouldn't be possible on presses that don't have this feature (this means any non-M&R press)
- M&R is always very conservative when it comes to rated print area vs. screen size. For instance, we quote a 14" image width capability when using a 20" wide screen. The screen frame itself is going to eat up 3" (1.5"+1.5") of that 20", making the ID 17". Quoting a 14" image width allows a very realistic 1.5" from the edge of the squeegee to the inside edge of the screen frame. Printing closer than that to the edge of the screen frame MAY be possible, but we're confident that even with marginal screen tension, 14" is doable. Compare that with other manufacturers' image size vs. screen size claims....
- We have many customers using the Diamondback Ls to print all types of shirts, as well as printing tagless labels at the highest speed possible.
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I dont think the image width is as important as the length. If the L could do 14X16 it would be great but I dont think this is that machines strength and thats where the Titan shines. The L has its place but not for an entry level auto for a screen printer. I can see it going to a shop with a large auto that can use the L for tags and other prints that fit the print area while not tying up the large auto. Same goes for the Titan. I know I get asked to print beyond 16" pretty frequently.

My upgrade list would consist of

Diamondback XL which may be the best option for image size/price.
Rpm/Mustang if I have the coin
Progressive Falcon M if I have the coin
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