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Old August 2nd, 2012, 11:01 AM   #51 (permalink)
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Who said I was joking?
INKMAN, are you doing the Skype video call with Printex?

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Great story guys, Barnes is willing to go in person and address the situation and the offer still stands to setup a video Skype with Printex as the mfg, not sure how many times or different ways you want to spin it, but this is the internet LOL
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I do thing its a little funny that you are going to train someone and you could use years of experience before you are proficent at it. It might make sense to hire someone that has experience, just a thought.
That is right jmd..I will train him on what I know so far.
I will work with him until he is capable of doing it himself.

The bottom line is...I don't want to be a screen printer...never did....I want to own the business. I want to know how in case I need to step in. I will over see it though.

I own other businesses....my time is more valuable in other places.
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That is right jmd..I will train him on what I know so far.
I will work with him until he is capable of doing it himself.

The bottom line is...I don't want to be a screen printer...never did....I want to own the business. I want to know how in case I need to step in. I will over see it though.

I own other businesses....my time is more valuable in other places.
Ted I completely understand...that's why I would think it would be benificial to you to hire a person with screen printing experience, even someone who knows his way around an auto
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Old August 2nd, 2012, 12:33 PM   #54 (permalink)
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Ted I completely understand...that's why I would think it would be benificial to you to hire a person with screen printing experience, even someone who knows his way around an auto
Hey Ted, I've been printing since 1992. Owned since 97 my own setup and for a long time I was the king of cheap punch and crunch and we trained people because it was cheapest way and watching costs etc. these days I pay the highest money for top staff, all my guys have 15 plus years in the industry now and get paid maybe 80% more than entry level and trainees and it's money I never question (often). They care more, they are intuitive and see issues and sort before they happen, no need to manage or look over their shoulders all the time, they understand all the water base and solvent and plastisol inks, transfers, etc, all the technical fabrics, umbrellas, bags, compendiums that can be thrown at them, waste is less, setup times less, colour matching perfect, no jobs come back.... With your investment you will learn from them and their experience, not by the two of you making mistakes, replacing stock,blooding customers etc. it's the best money you will spend. Go ten years plus. I won't ever like telling someone they doing something wrong as its their way, but this will drag you up or drag you down. All around the world screenprinters have essentially all the same gear for outputting prints with ink and converting garments, the difference between us all is experience, our staff and how we manage them and our quality and pricing. Staff are vital, maybe more so than the brand of machine you run in my honest opinion.
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Ted, I liken it to your world, anybody can buy a camera, and cameras are cheap enough, but sticking anyone behind a tripod doesn't mean they will ever have the eye or flair to be the photographer who captures that microsecond of magic and makes the most amazing shots or manages people to capture the best, all they may ever achieve is just clicking images, yet they've got the same gear. And then liken it to be trained by someone who isn't a photographer but just read a manual that says open shutter and push this button.....
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Ted I completely understand...that's why I would think it would be benificial to you to hire a person with screen printing experience, even someone who knows his way around an auto
I would...but it is not always practical.

Many in the industry have already developed bad habits.
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I would...but it is not always practical.

Many in the industry have already developed bad habits.
Ted find a woman printer, they work harder and listen better!
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Yeh the girls have a better attention to detail, but the sulking and rag week anger and time off with kids we have gone off for printers, but nothing like a sharp tongued woman at the back of the drier to pick up leaks, finger marks etc. get an ugly one so the boys keep it in their pants and mind on the job, send the good looking ones out to do sales.
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I would...but it is not always practical.

Many in the industry have already developed bad habits.
Sounds like you are giving up on finding someone before you look. Through a good and thorough interview process you might just find the right person.
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Yeh the girls have a better attention to detail, but the sulking and rag week anger and time off with kids we have gone off for printers, but nothing like a sharp tongued woman at the back of the drier to pick up leaks, finger marks etc. get an ugly one so the boys keep it in their pants and mind on the job, send the good looking ones out to do sales.
My first and only experience with hiring a woman did not go well. She was not any more detail oriented than the guys I've hired for the same position. I'm not saying those stereotypes aren't right, that's why I hired her was from other industry vets praising how good the women are in the production settings, I likely got a bad one. I might try to hire another woman, depends on the temp agency I go through.
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