Can't sleep!!!!!!!!!!!

arttex · January 16th, 2012, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by GraphicDisorder

This is yet again a risk buying something from overseas, in the end, they can do whatever the heck they want.....you are at their mercy.

No sir, sorry sir, but I can't agree with such a statement. I don't think this situation has anything to do with a fact that "Printex UE" is located overseas. As being someone who is running the company in Europe, I must say we never have had any issues with our partners abroad. Import from China, export to Australia, France, Czech Republic... not a single major issue. But yes, we burned our fingers few times doing business with a companies from our own country. The point is: You can be double crossed by your first neighbor, but have years of good business relationship with a company from China. Statements like this are making any overseas based company looks like a scam for potential US customers and I'm sure that wasn't your intention.

Take care and best regards from overseas

RobertWBarnes · January 16th, 2012, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by arttex

No sir, sorry sir, but I can't agree with such a statement. I don't think this situation has anything to do with a fact that "Printex UE" is located overseas. As being someone who is running the company in Europe, I must say we never have had any issues with our partners abroad. Import from China, export to Australia, France, Czech Republic... not a single major issue. But yes, we burned our fingers few times doing business with a companies from our own country. The point is: You can be double crossed by your first neighbor, but have years of good business relationship with a company from China. Statements like this are making any overseas based company looks like a scam for potential US customers and I'm sure that wasn't your intention.

Take care and best regards from overseas

Note: Just because Printex had some billing/communication issues between Poland/USA ... that doesn't incorporate into some ponzi scheme -but- it does equate to an issue of needed internal resolution <--- which has been addressed during our recent visit to Poland ... is it perfect ??? NOT yet ... is it a thousand times better YES !!!

The only smoking gun here is that Ted's machine was grossly delayed (we just installed a Mustang instead "problem solved") ... Inkman still can't print 20" -and- Jeff is in the 11th hour of negotiating a resolution with Andrew

funny thing is ... if RWB was controlling everything then why would Andrew have to be involved in resolving Jeff's situation ... let me guess ... cuz RWB is not allowed in Jeff's shop :-p LOL

GraphicDisorder · January 16th, 2012, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by arttex

No sir, sorry sir, but I can't agree with such a statement. I don't think this situation has anything to do with a fact that "Printex UE" is located overseas. As being someone who is running the company in Europe, I must say we never have had any issues with our partners abroad. Import from China, export to Australia, France, Czech Republic... not a single major issue. But yes, we burned our fingers few times doing business with a companies from our own country. The point is: You can be double crossed by your first neighbor, but have years of good business relationship with a company from China. Statements like this are making any overseas based company looks like a scam for potential US customers and I'm sure that wasn't your intention.

Take care and best regards from overseas

Statements like this are made because there are a lot of scams overseas. Ever hear of Nigeria and its massive link to scamming people in the US?

The bottom line is that a ocean can make the deal complicated.... do we really need to start citing examples of this? Say nothing for how laws effect deals from one country or another. Many shops wouldn't have the money to take on a deal gone wrong a ocean away. That's the facts.

But lets dig deeper, you are saying this situation has nothing to do Printex UE, then there is only one other person/company it could be that caused all of this. So you are basically blaming Robert, is that what your saying?

Gilligan · January 16th, 2012, 11:11 AM

Again Robert... you have not gone through Ted's deal step by step.

Point A (Ted deciding on Printex) to Point Z (Ted gets his Mustang delivered).

The truth shall set you free Robert.

GraphicDisorder · January 16th, 2012, 11:27 AM

It did take forever that's for sure, he ordered before I ordered mine I think. I have had my press 11 months right now, he just got his.

Do you know how much money you can make and how many shirts you can print in almost 1 year? I don't even turn my press on some weeks and I did 6 figures in business on it.....

arttex · January 16th, 2012, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by GraphicDisorder

Statements like this are made because there are a lot of scams overseas. Ever hear of Nigeria and its massive link to scamming people in the US?

The bottom line is that a ocean can make the deal complicated.... do we really need to start citing examples of this? Say nothing for how laws effect deals from one country or another. Many shops wouldn't have the money to take on a deal gone wrong a ocean away. That's the facts.

But lets dig deeper, you are saying this situation has nothing to do Printex UE, then there is only one other person/company it could be that caused all of this. So you are basically blaming Robert, is that what your saying?

There is a little difference between Nigeria and one European Union country like Poland, but OK, there are no scams in US, all scams, fraud and crooks are located overseas.

GraphicDisorder · January 16th, 2012, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by arttex

There is a little difference between Nigeria and one European Union country like Poland, but OK, there are no scams in US, all scams, fraud and crooks are located overseas.

I never suggested that at all. But when I get scammed in the USA (never have been), its not a 1-2-3k plane ticket away, in a strange country, and a possible language barrier either.....

You are not really suggesting doing business with a overseas company is SAFER or EASIER than it is with a US company are you? We need only look at deals that's happened here on DS to see that you'd be full of it if that was your opinion.

I mean look directly at Jeff's deal, the man paid in full for 3 presses, has only two, and is being told he owes more money to get them. Right? You call that a straight deal? Seriously?

RobertWBarnes · January 16th, 2012, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by arttex

There is a little difference between Nigeria and one European Union country like Poland, but OK, there are no scams in US, all scams, fraud and crooks are located overseas.

Here is a Question you could ponder ... if M&R produced all it's machines in the Poland plant and shut down it's USA MFG should everyone then only buy from Workhorse ???

RobertWBarnes · January 16th, 2012, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Gilligan

Again Robert... you have not gone through Ted's deal step by step.

Point A (Ted deciding on Printex) to Point Z (Ted gets his Mustang delivered).

The truth shall set you free Robert.

Ted -and- RWB just had a phone call -and- we both were laughing like school girls over the conspiracy theories ... as an example to keep the numbers simple ... Ted bought a $50k machine -and- because of the Printex issues Ted got a $75k machine instead

Note: Ted bought almost ALL WebgURL -and- Spiderman's meals during the install <--- someone needs to look into this ASAP !!!

inkman996 · January 16th, 2012, 12:21 PM

Why the f do you keep saying Jeff and andrew are negotiating? Last I heard Jeff signed a contract and paid in full, is printex not admit tingly not honoring this contract?

And I cannot believe for one second Robert you are supposedly standing on the out side during all this and have zero reason for anything going on. We all know you spend other companies money and promise customers ridiculous deals surely you are the root cause for Poland struggling. Amazingly printex would have actually been successful with the right person at the helm in the USA yet now I do not see printex have any chance recovering from this.