Embroiderers who haven't paid their digitizers

powerstitch · April 29th, 2012, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Robert Young

any response from them powerstitch? for him to log on to this forum JUST to respond to you must mean he really believes YOU are in the wrong... I just don't get it.

For him to log on onto this forum firstly is because a digitizer on this forum has contacted him trying to get his work because otherwise there is no way he would have known we discussing him.

Secondly if someone accused my company of doing wrong, I would go onto the forum to respond to protect my own business so others don't take it the wrong way. If you read his post he is admitting not paying, so why would I be on the wrong????

I respect the fact that he came on the forum and gave a true feedback and as a matter of fact we have talked and agreed to work again. But what is shocking is a member on this forum actually contacted him for work and you know who you are. This is why this thread is absolutely useless because nobody else has bothered to give any names on here but instead "lets target powerstitch's customers, how stupid of him to mention names of his ex-customers".

I guess I'm the only digitizer who has bad debts right?? The rest of you Im sure will post after 2 months when this thread will be long forgotten.

And no there is no rule that digitizers have to post here...I was the only stupid one to give out leads for potential customers.

gnizitigid · April 29th, 2012, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by powerstitch

For him to log on onto this forum firstly is because a digitizer on this forum has contacted him trying to get his work because otherwise there is no way he would have known we discussing him.

Secondly if someone accused my company of doing wrong, I would go onto the forum to respond to protect my own business so others don't take it the wrong way. If you read his post he is admitting not paying, so why would I be on the wrong????

I respect the fact that he came on the forum and gave a true feedback and as a matter of fact we have talked and agreed to work again. But what is shocking is a member on this forum actually contacted him for work and you know who you are. This is why this thread is absolutely useless because nobody else has bothered to give any names on here but instead "lets target powerstitch's customers, how stupid of him to mention names of his ex-customers".

I guess I'm the only digitizer who has bad debts right?? The rest of you Im sure will post after 2 months when this thread will be long forgotten.

And no there is no rule that digitizers have to post here...I was the only stupid one to give out leads for potential customers.

So who contacted him, its really bad.................

Robert Young · April 29th, 2012, 01:55 PM

ha, well if another digitizer is dumb enough to knowingly go after a client that has been shown NOT to pay for digitizing.. well, stupid them. Let them do it. I mentioned really large clients.. best of luck to any digitizer that wants to go after those... we sure don't care.

powerstitch · April 30th, 2012, 04:44 AM

The fact is Im not going to work with any of those clients again unless they clear their old dues first and then agree to pay upfront after, but the fact that others use the info to their benefit is what sucks.

This thread was to caution digitizers but it seems like its working the other way...

Rob, I suggest not mentioning further names anymore. Let every digitizer experience the bad times themselves. Why be stupid enough to caution another digitizer when this is what you get back and if you go back from the start you will see for yourself how many digitizers have actually mentioned names. You think they don't have bad debts??

I will now only put names here after I have warned my customers that their names will appear on this list if they dont pay purely for the sake of me getting my money back and not intended to give out contact details to other digitizers.

gnizitigid · April 30th, 2012, 10:55 AM

May be you are right

Robert Young · April 30th, 2012, 12:32 PM

no, I think that you dont really think you are going to get those clients back do you? I dont want the ones who have not paid me to come back, period... I dont care if they pay up front or not.. they have shown what type of people they are and I will not compromise my beliefs for their money.. There are TOO many clients as well as TOO many digitizers to do that.

So I dont care if YOU go after the clients I have mentioned.. But personally I dont think you are that dumb.. but for those that are... well, let them deal with the headaches. the more my competitors deal with stuff like that the less time they can spend actually digitizing.. win win.

powerstitch · April 30th, 2012, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Robert Young

no, I think that you dont really think you are going to get those clients back do you? I dont want the ones who have not paid me to come back, period... I dont care if they pay up front or not.. they have shown what type of people they are and I will not compromise my beliefs for their money.. There are TOO many clients as well as TOO many digitizers to do that.

So I dont care if YOU go after the clients I have mentioned.. But personally I dont think you are that dumb.. but for those that are... well, let them deal with the headaches. the more my competitors deal with stuff like that the less time they can spend actually digitizing.. win win.

Actually come to think of it you're right....... respect once lost is gone forever.... its tough building it up again especially due to bad debts. No point wasting time with such customers when the time can be used to get other genuine ones. As I mentioned before these are all old clients when we were offering credit to most new customers and we were growing the company but now we dont offer any sort of credit including a freebie. Just not worth the while once you already have a good client base keeping you busy.

Robert Young · May 4th, 2012, 12:52 PM

well I think the days of offering credit to digitizing clients are dwindling pretty quickly... much harder for those that used to go from one to another without paying... they are now having to pay up front. The best they can do now is dispute the cc charges.. and that only works a few times with different vendors and the cc company gets involved with them.

Robert Young · May 11th, 2012, 04:54 PM

today a potential new client calls in requesting terms, we advise that we are no longer allowing terms. This is their response via email:

"I am sorry but that is just not acceptable to us… I understand that you are a digitizing co first as I am a promotional company first. A rather large one that send your co a lot of business.. I guess I will just have to contact our main office and let them know this response and let them contact the rest of our franchises that do business with you and have them stop doing business… "

So he thinks the best way to begin a business relationship is by Threatening?? ha. I just simply advised he could do whatever he liked but I doubt those franchisees that ARE using us from their group are going to Stop just because HE did not get terms. lol Apparently when he bought into the group they must have over inflated how important they are as a collective. Nor is he aware apparently how FEW of his group use us... but someone must have sent him our way...

powerstitch · May 20th, 2012, 09:54 AM

Well done Rob..... I had a call from a USA embroiderer few days back. he was looking for a USA based digitizer so there was no way we could help him. But I will pass on the leads to you if you want.