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Old June 13th, 2009, 01:30 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I am embroidering material which has a layer of thin aluminum foil sandwiched in between.
Using a DB-xK5 needle with #30 rayon thread.

Have problems with thread breakage and also the machine doesn't run or sound correct
when doing this.

What suggestions might you have as far as needle type, thread type, etc. The digitizing
is good and tensions are all set correct.

Thanks.
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Old June 13th, 2009, 07:08 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Well ... A few things I see as possible problems.

1.) Rayon, Rayon thread by nature is very weak. Is there a reason you must use rayon? Poly is MUCH stronger than rayon.

2.) Needle size? For 30# thread on that kind of material, I would suggest at least size 75/11, probably lean more towards 80/12's though. 30# is a little thicker than industry standard (40#) you don't want to be driving too much thread, too fast, through too small of a needle. You will get breaks all day.

3.) Replace the needle anyway, perhaps its a bit dull, embroidering on that kind of stuff is rough on needles.

4.) What speed are you running at? Try to back off on the speed.

Hope that helps ...
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PS - Forgot to mention, there is also such a thing these days as Teflon coated needles, They tend to slide in and out of the fabric with less heat / friction. I use them for embroidering on leather.... However they are about 3x the price of regular needles.
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Well ... A few things I see as possible problems.

1.) Rayon, Rayon thread by nature is very weak. Is there a reason you must use rayon? Poly is MUCH stronger than rayon.

2.) Needle size? For 30# thread on that kind of material, I would suggest at least size 75/11, probably lean more towards 80/12's though. 30# is a little thicker than industry standard (40#) you don't want to be driving too much thread, too fast, through too small of a needle. You will get breaks all day.

3.) Replace the needle anyway, perhaps its a bit dull, embroidering on that kind of stuff is rough on needles.

4.) What speed are you running at? Try to back off on the speed.

Hope that helps ...
-- Eric
I was using a 9/14 needles with #30 rayon thread.
Speed of machine was very low, 250 spm.

The needles I was using were titanium coated, sharp point.

Will look for the teflon coated needles and try some poly thread.
Also maybe wedge point?

Thanks for the tips.
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