Mark Alves + Don M&R Tech Scammed Me Out ot $8,000 - Need Advice?

shirtmatic · September 2nd, 2016, 03:42 PM

Hello guys,

I have waited a little over a month already to post this but I've finally gotten to a point where I have had enough. Mark Alves is a very active seller / middleman on these forums so I advise anyone to NOT do business with him. I purchased two dryers from this man and one was delivered, the other he made up some story about it getting damaged and that they found another one. They sent me the other one and it wasn't at all similiar. It wasnt the same size belt, heat chamber was smaller, and it wasn't even M&R! I did not accept the second dryer and they went back home with it.

Note ( I paid for professional delivery yet mark himself delivered it, these guys must be itching for money to pull that )

Now he has gone missing and I have about 10 texts or so deep with no response and its been several weeks. Throughout this entire exchange I was also in contact with his M&R tech "Don" that is all I know. Somehow these two are related and do these deals together. Mark sells the equipment and Don goes and installs it. Don was also the one who was offering me a different dryer and actually handling the discussion after the second one that I was supposed to get was 'damaged'.

I have plans on calling M&R and reporting this tech as well and will be putting them both on blast in the next several days on the internet and various other forums. I also plan on filing a police report and filing a lawsuit, only issue I dont have much info on them at the moment. If anyone can help or has information please share.

So far I have this:

Mark Alves
812-572-5334
[email address]

His profile on here: http://www.digitsmith.com/members/markalves.html
As you can see he was actually active today, yet doesnt respond to his phone.
Location: Indiana / Kentucky
His bank info:
BANK INFORMATION
BANK NAME MAINSOURCE
ADDRESS 100 E. SPRING STREET
NEW ALBANY,INDIANA47150
CONTACT SHERRY SIMPSON
ACCOUNT NAME ALVES INDUSTRIES
ACCOUNT NUMBER 727 741 2
ROUTING NUMBER 074903308

Don (the m&r tech)
864-473-9789

Last person I talked to was Don and he was trying to tell me how they arent a 'scam' and if they were I would have not received anything, yet I received one dryer. I'm not sure if this man has lost his mind or is just an imbecile, but when you purchase such as a conveyor dryer for a business, you need it delivered and set up as soon as possible. Not wait 2 months.. Not to mention I have no response from him for sometimes several days, to a week, and when I do get a response it would be very generic like, we are working on getting you another one, just few more days, etc. Then they will tell me they found something and not tell me the specs for few more days later, then say something completely different just to prolong the wait.

Case in point, the original purchase of the second dryer was made for a particular unit that was damaged according to them. I agreed that I would let them send me a similiar replacement instead of just asking for a refund, (which I believe i am entitled to 100 percent as the original unit was damaged by them). I gave them a favor to resolve this and still keep the money, yet now its been almost two months and no second dryer and no money, and no response from them. Scam or not, when you purchase something and have to wait weeks to receive a response, and wait months to possibly receive your item, its a not a way to do business and to me is a scam.

levdevplusm · September 3rd, 2016, 05:14 PM

I can easily relate to your problem. They did the same with me a year back.
I had to leave a ton of messages to his bank manager telling about how shitty was her client and expose them here on digitsmith. They finally refund me but it took 3 months.

Hope you get your money back. Never buy anything from those 2 guys.

P.S They even tryed to sell me a dryer that when I called the owner cause they were offering to little detail and wanted be sure what I was gonna get, I then learned it wasnt even for sell. They are pro scammer.

Quote:

Originally Posted by shirtmatic

Hello guys,

I have waited a little over a month already to post this but I've finally gotten to a point where I have had enough. Mark Alves is a very active seller / middleman on these forums so I advise anyone to NOT do business with him. I purchased two dryers from this man and one was delivered, the other he made up some story about it getting damaged and that they found another one. They sent me the other one and it wasn't at all similiar. It wasnt the same size belt, heat chamber was smaller, and it wasn't even M&R! I did not accept the second dryer and they went back home with it.

Note ( I paid for professional delivery yet mark himself delivered it, these guys must be itching for money to pull that )

Now he has gone missing and I have about 10 texts or so deep with no response and its been several weeks. Throughout this entire exchange I was also in contact with his M&R tech "Don" that is all I know. Somehow these two are related and do these deals together. Mark sells the equipment and Don goes and installs it. Don was also the one who was offering me a different dryer and actually handling the discussion after the second one that I was supposed to get was 'damaged'.

I have plans on calling M&R and reporting this tech as well and will be putting them both on blast in the next several days on the internet and various other forums. I also plan on filing a police report and filing a lawsuit, only issue I dont have much info on them at the moment. If anyone can help or has information please share.

So far I have this:

Mark Alves
812-572-5334
[email address]

His profile on here: http://www.digitsmith.com/members/markalves.html
As you can see he was actually active today, yet doesnt respond to his phone.
Location: Indiana / Kentucky
His bank info:
BANK INFORMATION
BANK NAME MAINSOURCE
ADDRESS 100 E. SPRING STREET
NEW ALBANY,INDIANA47150
CONTACT SHERRY SIMPSON
ACCOUNT NAME ALVES INDUSTRIES
ACCOUNT NUMBER 727 741 2
ROUTING NUMBER 074903308

Don (the m&r tech)
864-473-9789

Last person I talked to was Don and he was trying to tell me how they arent a 'scam' and if they were I would have not received anything, yet I received one dryer. I'm not sure if this man has lost his mind or is just an imbecile, but when you purchase such as a conveyor dryer for a business, you need it delivered and set up as soon as possible. Not wait 2 months.. Not to mention I have no response from him for sometimes several days, to a week, and when I do get a response it would be very generic like, we are working on getting you another one, just few more days, etc. Then they will tell me they found something and not tell me the specs for few more days later, then say something completely different just to prolong the wait.

Case in point, the original purchase of the second dryer was made for a particular unit that was damaged according to them. I agreed that I would let them send me a similiar replacement instead of just asking for a refund, (which I believe i am entitled to 100 percent as the original unit was damaged by them). I gave them a favor to resolve this and still keep the money, yet now its been almost two months and no second dryer and no money, and no response from them. Scam or not, when you purchase something and have to wait weeks to receive a response, and wait months to possibly receive your item, its a not a way to do business and to me is a scam.

shirtmatic · September 9th, 2016, 10:05 PM

Just to update this thread:

They both contacted me very shortly after posting on here and asking for me to take it down. I told them absolutely not until they refund me my money obviously. Not to mention everything I said in the thread is 100 percent true, so if anyone else wants to buy from them then its a huge risk to take with these guys. You may not get the item, they may try to sell you another item, or they will just waste your time completelty, so beware!

Anyways, they sent me a photo of a bank wire that they "supposedly" sent last week on Friday, which at the time of writing this is 7 days ago, and guess what, the wire never hit my bank account. They were sending me 3k for a partial refund and insisted I take this post down "on good faith". Luckily I kept it up and now I'm glad I did since no money was received at all!

It seems like since I am keeping this thread alive and open I will not be getting a refund from Mark Alves so we will proceed with legal action and I encourage anyone that has any info to please message me so we can get this guy!

Thanks in advance!

shirtmatic · October 20th, 2016, 02:10 AM

I received half of my money back, he still has not refunded me the entire amount. He claims I need to wait until he sells some more equipment so he has the money to pay me back. Not happy at all that I have to wait, very unprofessional and I wouldn't be surprised if I don't get the other half anytime soon.

danlilsade · October 23rd, 2016, 12:38 PM

I hear Mark and Donnie Blackwell are tight, would this be the Don you are referring to?

shirtmatic · October 23rd, 2016, 04:42 PM

I don't think so. This guys name is Mark Alves and his tech "Don" is all I know. He goes by Don and not Donnie.

Equipment Locators · November 5th, 2016, 11:43 PM

bump

shirtmatic · November 5th, 2016, 11:46 PM

Still waiting for a refund from them!

Robert Young · November 6th, 2016, 07:21 PM

just a question... how did you meet these people? what did they do to make you think they were OK? as a person interested in future printing... I would like to learn. As a digitizer I have never given a nickle until the embroidery machine was delivered and in obvious working order..... so confused about you giving money up front? I am sorry, just not something I personally have ever done.... you deliver the goods.. show me they work THEN and only THEN will I give you payment. Otherwise you are just wasting my time.. and those companies that refused these terms... well not interested.

shirtmatic · November 6th, 2016, 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert Young

just a question... how did you meet these people? what did they do to make you think they were OK? as a person interested in future printing... I would like to learn. As a digitizer I have never given a nickle until the embroidery machine was delivered and in obvious working order..... so confused about you giving money up front? I am sorry, just not something I personally have ever done.... you deliver the goods.. show me they work THEN and only THEN will I give you payment. Otherwise you are just wasting my time.. and those companies that refused these terms... well not interested.

Its just the risk I was willing to take. I buy goods from ebay and other websites all the time without seeing them first. Its also a risk you have to be willing to take when your buying used equipment anyways, always something could be off but thats why your getting it for much cheaper than new, so most of the time its worth it. He has had a long standing account on here and also has been a consistent broker, a few hundred posts and counting so I figured he was legit.

Unfortunately no one will deliver equipment, install it for you and then let you decide whether you want it or not, would be nice if it worked that way!