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Old July 24th, 2011, 09:34 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Agreed... I do everything I can to not buy from conglomerates.

It's hard. But I haven't been to Walmart/Sam's in like 5 or 6 years.
Sam's and Walmart is not total fault....It is our government for allowing this to happen.

If you want Weider workout equipment, it doesn't matter if you buy it at Walmart, Sam's, Academy or direct from Weider, They are all made in China.

It is not Walmart's fault. They might of encouraged it at the beginning, but our government allowed it.

Clinton and Bush allowed it. Obama don't know what to do about it.

We need a president that can control the house and senate to bring our industry back home.

To get our factories back home, we need tax benefits.

Lower taxes to bring businesses back home. Then once we have many home, raise the taxes for businesses away.

At the moment, China has us by the Balls.
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Old July 24th, 2011, 09:47 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I think the video is pretty nice.

I give him an 8.5 out of 10.
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Old July 24th, 2011, 10:07 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Yeah pretty good on the fly answers utilizing basic english words for translation into Chinese! Summed it up nicely.
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Old July 25th, 2011, 02:51 AM   #14 (permalink)
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With you 100% Ink Guy!

My main beef with Walmart is that they are the biggest drivers in the consumer goods market. They LITERALLY dictate to the manufacture that they NEED to go to China to produce the goods for them and that they won't pay more than X for them.

The vendor this HAS to go to China to cut cost to be able to profit and continue to sell to Walmart.

It's very sad, around here we have lots of crawfish farming (Ted's hometown has a LARGE festival every year about it.) You have 80% (I'm probably being conservative) of people around here that refuse to buy "chinese" crawfish because it hits so close to home and they know what it does. Yet they will be at Walmart making this decision not to buy Chinese crawfish. *sigh*

The main thing that not buying at Walmart helps with is my local economy. We have a small to medium grocery store. They have 3 check out lines with someone manning each one at almost all times. Go to walmart and they have the same 3 people working... but they have 10 lanes or more. Then there is self-checkout. So I'd say per square foot or per good on the shelves there are probably close to twice as many people employed.

Work for a local business and your child gets sick, they practically demand that you go and get that child and take care of them. Work for walmart and they tell you "if you can't do your job we will find someone else to do it!" They couldn't give a crap about your family, they are worried about their performance bonus.

Ok, enough of that rant.
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Old July 25th, 2011, 03:11 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Sam's and Walmart is not total fault....It is our government for allowing this to happen.

If you want Weider workout equipment, it doesn't matter if you buy it at Walmart, Sam's, Academy or direct from Weider, They are all made in China.

It is not Walmart's fault. They might of encouraged it at the beginning, but our government allowed it.

Clinton and Bush allowed it. Obama don't know what to do about it.

We need a president that can control the house and senate to bring our industry back home.

To get our factories back home, we need tax benefits.

Lower taxes to bring businesses back home. Then once we have many home, raise the taxes for businesses away.

At the moment, China has us by the Balls.
This won't happen with globalization, only protectionism which is stepping backwards. America needs to get more with the modern economies and policies of the world and adapt and evolve it's economy to compete where it does best. Low skill cheap labour jobs will shift to emerging economies, and as they create wealth they will shift again. America needs to compete with technology, innovation, capital goods, developing new technology. The thought of competing with menial low tech, high labour jobs is obsolete. The future is education. America also needs to lower it's trade barriers, let other countries sell openly and easily food, textiles and simple products. If the tariff and quota system was abolished you will see jobs go, but you would also have other countries drop their trade barriers accordingly, and this will open new opportunities.
Every economy has it's day. Right since the ancient roman times. Japan reached it's mass, and Taiwan, and so is China, where manufacturing is already moving toward Bangladesh and Vietnam.

The bigger concern is not necessarily Asia, but the debt of Europe and USA. The books need to be balanced. If every country floated their currencies in neutral reserve banks that couldn't be controlled as much and were more independent of their governments you would also see massive rebalancing in trade as the Yuan appreciated and the Euro and USD depreciated amongst others.
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I guess he did ok, but what caught my attention more then anything was what he said. For example he kept repeating he was amazed at the technology put into the machines. The same technology he has been bashing M&R and other competitors about for months and months. Seems he thinks its good technology after all. Please tell me I'm not the only one who noticed this?
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Old July 25th, 2011, 11:21 AM   #17 (permalink)
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The bigger concern is not necessarily Asia, but the debt of Europe and USA. The books need to be balanced. If every country floated their currencies in neutral reserve banks that couldn't be controlled as much and were more independent of their governments you would also see massive rebalancing in trade as the Yuan appreciated and the Euro and USD depreciated amongst others.

I agree with that completely.

I don't really agree with the first part of your post though. As it is right now, our number one export is TRASH... that's right garbage.

Granted, the "cost of living" may increase if we tighten down the borders and get rid of this freetrade... but at least we will have jobs and income. I personally think the funds are just being placed in the wrong places. If we balance things out and EDUCATE people on how to spend (save) money and not live beyond their means then it will get better. It will take time but it will get better.

We are an economy based on consumption... problem is we don't produce any longer, we just consume. That is shifting the money away from most of the people and only into the hands of those controlling things. Our population is too large for that sort of mentality.
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I guess he did ok, but what caught my attention more then anything was what he said. For example he kept repeating he was amazed at the technology put into the machines. The same technology he has been bashing M&R and other competitors about for months and months. Seems he thinks its good technology after all. Please tell me I'm not the only one who noticed this?
I don't remember him saying M&R was not good. He referred to their digital displays to being the basic....and the switches were old school.

That doesn't mean it doesn't work good.

Today is all about technology, why do you think computers come out with new models every year?

Old Chevy muscle cars are still awesome though.

His selling feature is new, innovative, digital displays, while M&R is Old school but proven.

So, both machines can be good to the right person.
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Old July 25th, 2011, 02:00 PM   #19 (permalink)
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I don't remember him saying M&R was not good. He referred to their digital displays to being the basic....and the switches were old school.

That doesn't mean it doesn't work good.

Today is all about technology, why do you think computers come out with new models every year?

Old Chevy muscle cars are still awesome though.

His selling feature is new, innovative, digital displays, while M&R is Old school but proven.

So, both machines can be good to the right person.
I never said he said it was bad, please read it again. He knocked them for their lack of new technology. Now go look at the video and notice the machine has the same LACK OF TECHNOLOGY he ranted about, but yet kept saying he was impressed with the technology in the machines. You can SPIN those facts anyway you want.
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Old July 25th, 2011, 02:09 PM   #20 (permalink)
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To be fair it is new technology to them when you consider the way they've been printing lol we've all seen the youtube videos of ridiculous manual printing operations.

If they do have the capability of remote monitoring/control then yeah that would surprise many people here. That may have just been a diagnostic display that I saw a while back that was remotely connected to the machine.
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