Not to ruffle feathers, BUT M&R vs. MHM

Renagade · July 22nd, 2012, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by srimonogramming

Respectfully Mike, I disagree. There are some turds out there, and some lemons from those you wouldn't expect. Choose from only 3-4 good manufacturers and you'll likely be fine, with the occasional lemon from at least one of those 4. This is the truth and for any of you that want to think that us forum cowboys are just trying to stir s h I t up, there is only one company that you can buy a press from and know that 100% you will get a very solid machine along with the best service after the sale. The other good manufacturers fall very short in most every other category after the quality and features of the press. It's really that simple. The competition builds decent machines, but machines break down and have issues so what's going to happen when that does? You might get taken care of 70-80% of the time with several of the manus or 99% of the time with número UNO.

Alan is 100% right, 2M has the best product and the best support & warranty, now if they can only get their lead times down below 12 weeks!

bluemoon · July 22nd, 2012, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Renagade

Are you saying that the MHM customers that have had to replace the main shaft on there machines are happy? If so, that is great news! The guy in the Pittsburgh rea hade to spend almost $10,000 dollars to have his fixed, but if he had the main shaft the next day from Europe, now that is some service!

every press manufacturers will have presses that break down. There is no way around that. That is a FACT! What is in question is how often does it happen and how well it is handled when it does happen.

From,what I have heard (and please remember that as an MHM user I am biased), ppl that ran many different style presses say that MHM is the most reliable. I can't prove it and the info obviously comes from ppl running the MHM's, so again take it for what it's worth.
Second, the service is getting pretty good. see previous post. If he got a shaft in from Europe the next day, that's pretty good. Not sure why they would have to fly it in from there as they have a warehouse full of parts in US, but OK. He still got the part next day.

The final point is, even though he had to buy a new shaft, is he happy with the press and would he buy it again? I can't speak for the guy in Pittsburgh, but I would.

pierre

Renagade · July 22nd, 2012, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by bluemoon

every press manufacturers will have presses that break down. There is no way around that. That is a FACT! What is in question is how often does it happen and how well it is handled when it does happen.

From,what I have heard (and please remember that as an MHM user I am biased), ppl that ran many different style presses say that MHM is the most reliable. I can't prove it and the info obviously comes from ppl running the MHM's, so again take it for what it's worth.
Second, the service is getting pretty good. see previous post. If he got a shaft in from Europe the next day, that's pretty good. Not sure why they would have to fly it in from there as they have a warehouse full of parts in US, but OK. He still got the part next day.

The final point is, even though he had to buy a new shaft, is he happy with the press and would he buy it again? I can't speak for the guy in Pittsburgh, but I would.

pierre

Tell us this Pierre, why is it that people are not allowed to speak the truth on this forum or your forum or any other forum in our industry?

244 · July 22nd, 2012, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Renagade

Tell us this Pierre, why is it that people are not allowed to speak the truth on this forum or your forum or any other forum in our industry?

Another Barnes alias. Buyers beware!

Renagade · July 22nd, 2012, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by 244

Another Barnes alias. Buyers beware!

Censorship is always part of your plan huh?

244 · July 22nd, 2012, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Renagade

Censorship is always part of your plan huh?

Warning unsuspecting screenprinters about you ripping them off is the plan Barnes!

Renagade · July 22nd, 2012, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by 244

Warning unsuspecting screenprinters about you ripping them off is the plan Barnes!

So the Mustang is a ripoff?

squeegee · July 22nd, 2012, 11:59 AM

If I were the person that wants info about MHM I'd talk to some real people and not put any faith in this forum dribble.

Forums are full of misinformation, be careful what you believe.

Renagade · July 22nd, 2012, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by squeegee

If I were the person that wants info about MHM I'd talk to some real people and not put any faith in this forum dribble.

Forums are full of misinformation, be careful what you believe.

Squeegee is right, just ignore the man behind the control panel

The Bumper · July 22nd, 2012, 03:13 PM

BUYERS BEWARE!
If you are thinking of purchasing any type of screen printing equipment, I highly advise you to stay clear of Robert Barnes from Spider Machines. He sells Printex,Mustang Printers and has several business fronts.

Since your purchase is going to be a very big decision, I recommend that you research Robert Barnes so that you can see for yourself, that he has not only stolen from printing companies, but has also sold equipment falsely advertised as well as not working properly, or not even delivered the equipment.
Below is a quick copy and past of a few members here on this forum that will honestly tell their story of how Robert Barnes has ripped them off. I suggest that you take a few moments to read it, and if you follow up by contacting these people, they will surely convince you not to do business with him or his company!

Robert Barnes goes by many alias' on this forum...more than can be counted.
Ask the following people on this forum about their experience with Robert Barnes, or private message me here!

inkman996
pushingink
binkspot
Andrew at Printex EU (Andrews cell Number in Poland) 01148 668 136 652 This guys says that Robert Barnes owes Printex EU a lot of $$$