Not to ruffle feathers, BUT M&R vs. MHM

Renagade · July 23rd, 2012, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by no one important

Mr Barnes...M & R purchased their first CNC machine somewhere around 95'...give or take a couple of years. So that means they were about 12-15 years ahead of 2M machining their presses....so I guess that means that 2M is following M & R's lead...too funny!

Nope, you are wrong (again) check the date of the Mustang video on YouTube and compare it the the M&R video date, you will find that the M&R factory tour videos are a reactionary measure on the war against truth (and Barnes)

no one important · July 23rd, 2012, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Renagade

Nope, you are wrong (again) check the date of the Mustang video on YouTube and compare it the the M&R video date, you will find that the M&R factory tour videos are a reactionary measure on the war against truth (and Barnes)

Wrong again Mr. Barnes...you are trying to bait and switch here again. The dates on the videos have nothing...let me repeat that in case you are "Hard of Hearing" the dates on the videos have nothing to do with my statement about when M & R first started using a CNC machine to machine presses. They purchased their first large format CNC machine around 1995 (give or take a year or two) and started to machine their presses then. IN fact at the time they bought their first machine there were only two other machines being used at that time. One of the companies was Air Bus (you know...the guys who make airplanes) and I can't remember who the other company was, but M & R was the first company to purchase and use that type of equipment here in the USA. So to be clear...the dates on the videos hve nothing to do with when the CNC machines were first put into use in Screen Printing equipment.

Renagade · July 23rd, 2012, 08:36 PM

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Wrong again Mr. Barnes...you are trying to bait and switch here again. The dates on the videos have nothing...let me repeat that in case you are "Hard of Hearing" the dates on the videos have nothing to do with my statement about when M & R first started using a CNC machine to machine presses. They purchased their first large format CNC machine around 1995 (give or take a year or two) and started to machine their presses then. IN fact at the time they bought their first machine there were only two other machines being used at that time. One of the companies was Air Bus (you know...the guys who make airplanes) and I can't remember who the other company was, but M & R was the first company to purchase and use that type of equipment here in the USA. So to be clear...the dates on the videos hve nothing to do with when the CNC machines were first put into use in Screen Printing equipment.

That is a very interesting story, it is nice to know that M&R using very outdated machines from 1995 were Mustang uses more modern technology and larger CNC tables

Also, based on the video dates M&R is definitely following the lead of the Mustang in creating videos as the original post stated, thank for put some clarity on the situation, Mustang is once again grateful to know it is the lead horse in the race

inkman996 · July 23rd, 2012, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Renagade

That is a very interesting story, it is nice to know that M&R using very outdated machines from 1995 were Mustang uses more modern technology and larger CNC tables

Also, based on the video dates M&R is definitely following the lead of the Mustang in creating videos as the original post stated, thank for put some clarity on the situation, Mustang is once again grateful to know it is the lead horse in the race

Manufacturing plants still use custom made machinery from the turn of the century. The previous century!

Renagade · July 23rd, 2012, 09:13 PM

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Manufacturing plants still use custom made machinery from the turn of the century. The previous century!

Inkman, have every seen a screw machine set up / running

no one important · July 23rd, 2012, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Renagade

That is a very interesting story, it is nice to know that M&R using very outdated machines from 1995 were Mustang uses more modern technology and larger CNC tables

Also, based on the video dates M&R is definitely following the lead of the Mustang in creating videos as the original post stated, thank for put some clarity on the situation, Mustang is once again grateful to know it is the lead horse in the race

So you are saying we should never fly on an Airbus plane because they are outdated planes??? Nice try Buckwheat. Keep trying Mr. Barnes...you can spin & spin and spin, but you can't make gold out of straw. Dates on videos...that one is really weak, but keep trying!

Renagade · July 23rd, 2012, 10:33 PM

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So you are saying we should never fly on an Airbus plane because they are outdated planes??? Nice try Buckwheat. Keep trying Mr. Barnes...you can spin & spin and spin, but you can't make gold out of straw. Dates on videos...that one is really weak, but keep trying!

I think this is a classic case where you misinterpreted what was typed!

Since you assume this is Barnes we will assume that you are Hoffman.

sellerbuyer · July 26th, 2012, 11:07 AM

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I think this is a classic case where you misinterpreted what was typed!

Since you assume this is Barnes we will assume that you are Hoffman.

FACT: Renagade is Robert Barnes

alclpost · July 26th, 2012, 11:35 AM

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FACT: Renagade is Robert Barnes

I thought that was kind of obvious, but I can confirm that is accurate, as he sent me a few PM's to that effect...

ExtremeScreen · June 11th, 2013, 08:56 AM

We run 2 mhm autos, 1 is a 6 color etype and the second press is
A 14/16 mhm 4000 with auto reg. Now the Etype we print 20x25 inches all day
Long with really good coverage around seams. The X type has the same heads and support as the 4000 so I see no issues with it not being beefy enough. Mhm service has been great,
In 5 years we have lost no more than a couple hours. If I was in the market for a new press and I didn't have MHM machines already I would look at the challenger 3. The problem with the MHM 4000 14/16 is it will only print around 650 an hour with a 50% stroke speed on a 16 inch tall image, it's ok for us because we do alot of 2-300 piece runs 10-12 colors oversize but I had no idea it was so slow. The etype will print 1200 per hour easy. The biggest benefit to the MHM 4000 is the auto reg. you can pull a guy off the street and he can register a 10 color job and get it dead on with ease. I don't post here much but I feel that MHM has a bad rap from the past and things have changed so anyone looking for a press needs to just see both in action. Better yet I would setup a job on both presses, I'm sure there are shops that would allow you to setup one of there jobs so you can see first hand.