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pushing ink · April 1st, 2012, 10:14 AM

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Re: Auto presses

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Quote from: crazymike13 on March 29, 2012, 06:14:18 PM

That is why I was interested in the annual US sales. If there were large sales you would
think manufactures would have common models ready to ship.

Mike I think that sales are down across the board and is the reason why some of the manu's are waging war on the net right now. It has even gotten so bad that one owner of a brand of press is now trashing the brand of press they own and raved about just because the guy they like is no longer the main seller of them. Now how stupid is that?

The recent M&R law suit against you know who was dismissed (basically thrown out by the judge because it lacked substance). The real funny thing about that suit is that the real person who was posting all those post on Digitsmith that got Rich to file the law suit is the same person that is now calling customers of another business and trashing them (they confessed to me on the phone so I know who it was). I other words the person who caused the law suit is now in bed with the company that filed the law suit. Talk about a Vaseline job.

Preston thinks that I was the cause of the M&R lawsuit against Robert Barnes. LOL

I will call ever customer that I know that Robert Barnes has or could be dealing with and tell them what he did and how he stole 80k of my money and 150k of leon's.

Your buddy the guy who you TRIED to sell presses for "I say tried because you were never able to sell at least one" Ol Bobby use to laugh at you when he was here, at your incompetence as a seller.

Funny that you would trash M&R and jump on the Robert Barnes team, when M&R GAVE you a press free and even paid for the freight because you were down on your luck.

Robert Barnes has and will not ever help you or even give 2 shlts about you.

I had a nice talk with Barnes new customer and I told him not to give Barnes any more money until that press " MUSTANG" was sitting on his floor running.

He gave Barnes 12k and had some questions, He also had been told that when they sent him pictures of the press" YES PICTURES" he would need to send more. He also said that he wasn't sure that they would be pictures of his press.

I heard that the guy at 2m in chicagoland, The brains behind the RPM and Mustang actually works for another company"not screen printing" full time and only does this PART time.LMAO..

So you have Robert Barnes himself sell and install and Mareush the part time press mfger and that is your Mustang crew!

Mustang has no parts dept.

Mustang is owned by who? If they won't show you that at least, start walking ASAP.

Mustang is low on capital.. I would say that they don't have a DIME!!!

Mustang has no technicians other than Robert Barnes, and he installs with shims and it take this guy a looong time to install.

Mustang has major air leaks. There is only one support persons yes Fat Bob

Mustang's chopper is out of wack on the video another LMAO moment

Mustang is known for what? a ripoff of the RPM

If you think M&R or anybody has whispered in my ear, think again you Robert Barnes will have me and other s on your back forever over the theift of my money and you under handed dealings.

The Bumper · April 1st, 2012, 12:31 PM

Preston always was a kook. I was never a fan of him because no matter what the topic was, he always had a way of saying that HIS way was the right way.

When he started fondling Barnes' nuts, he was finished forever! He's got an empty casket on his "forum" or whatever he calls that pathetic place.

Once again, Buyer Beware of dealing with Robert Barnes from Spider Machines. he is not legit and will definitely con you in some way and you'll be left hanging!

Printwizard · April 1st, 2012, 12:41 PM

Jeff,

I think it's rude to compare Wes and Mariusz of 2M, to compare with Andrew of Printex. they are Poles Apart.

2M have delivered and have a history of delivery, ask Rick Fuqua of RPM. Yes a machine leaked, and that was put right. 2M deal straight no questions and quickly if any issues arise. They are not Printex. Attacking Printex and Barnes, fair game. Attacking 2M and it looks like MnR asking you to do to them what Barnes had you do to them perhaps. Not flash.

Preston, well why even mention him, it gives him credibility. I lost respect when he blamed the operator for the capture fork breaking when they hit the E-Stop. Bringing him up here again just gives him an audience he doesn't deserve. And the way he has behaved, he should have sent the Rhino back or to somebody who was grateful rather than biting the hand that feeds him. That too says a lot about him. But mentioning him here you may find someone new goes and takes a look at him and thinks he's the smartest person in the room again and starts to listen to him, which will do no good for them in time.

inkman996 · April 1st, 2012, 01:38 PM

He dragging Preston back here is is pointless and really does give him credibility. The only beef I have with Preston right now is he is still falsely advertising a press,s print stroke.

GraphicDisorder · April 1st, 2012, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Printwizard

Jeff,

I think it's rude to compare Wes and Mariusz of 2M, to compare with Andrew of Printex. they are Poles Apart.

Except both have made two very similar mistakes. Which will like it or not damage both the RPM and the Mustang brand. Will they stay in business, probably they are for sure building better equipment than Playtex.

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Originally Posted by Printwizard

2M have delivered and have a history of delivery, ask Rick Fuqua of RPM. Yes a machine leaked, and that was put right. 2M deal straight no questions and quickly if any issues arise. They are not Printex. Attacking Printex and Barnes, fair game. Attacking 2M and it looks like MnR asking you to do to them what Barnes had you do to them perhaps. Not flash.

What basis do you have to suggest M&R is having Jeff make comments/posts/etc. Seems like a wild claim with nothing to back it up.

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Originally Posted by Printwizard

Preston, well why even mention him, it gives him credibility. I lost respect when he blamed the operator for the capture fork breaking when they hit the E-Stop. Bringing him up here again just gives him an audience he doesn't deserve. And the way he has behaved, he should have sent the Rhino back or to somebody who was grateful rather than biting the hand that feeds him. That too says a lot about him. But mentioning him here you may find someone new goes and takes a look at him and thinks he's the smartest person in the room again and starts to listen to him, which will do no good for them in time.

I agree with you here. Why bother mentioning him. No reason to give him any credibility in this industry. He picked his bed, let him sleep in that sucker.

GraphicDisorder · April 1st, 2012, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by inkman996

He dragging Preston back here is is pointless and really does give him credibility. The only beef I have with Preston right now is he is still falsely advertising a press,s print stroke.

Which I made Robert and Sara aware of sizing issues on the site several times, that were never changed. Which was even before Preston was selling them. True indication of lack of care on their part. Of course nobody knew then that your print stoke would also be wrong....but when they couldn't even post correct sizing on their site, I knew there were going to be some issues on measurements from the start. It was clear early on nobody had their **** together.

pushing ink · April 1st, 2012, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Printwizard

Jeff,

I think it's rude to compare Wes and Mariusz of 2M, to compare with Andrew of Printex. they are Poles Apart.

2M have delivered and have a history of delivery, ask Rick Fuqua of RPM. Yes a machine leaked, and that was put right. 2M deal straight no questions and quickly if any issues arise. They are not Printex. Attacking Printex and Barnes, fair game. Attacking 2M and it looks like MnR asking you to do to them what Barnes had you do to them perhaps. Not flash.

Preston, well why even mention him, it gives him credibility. I lost respect when he blamed the operator for the capture fork breaking when they hit the E-Stop. Bringing him up here again just gives him an audience he doesn't deserve. And the way he has behaved, he should have sent the Rhino back or to somebody who was grateful rather than biting the hand that feeds him. That too says a lot about him. But mentioning him here you may find someone new goes and takes a look at him and thinks he's the smartest person in the room again and starts to listen to him, which will do no good for them in time.

The ONLY point I was making is that the MUSTANG is the next johnny come lately for Barnes and that it is important for people to know that 2m is a SMALL company and does not have the resources to back up Barnes statements and production capibilites.

Printwizard · April 1st, 2012, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by pushing ink

The ONLY point I was making is that the MUSTANG is the next johnny come lately for Barnes and that it is important for people to know that 2m is a SMALL company and does not have the resources to back up Barnes statements and production capibilites.

Bashing Barnes Ok, bashing 2M not. They are small, so are lots of companies, mine and yours included, doesn't mean our word is not good and we deliver on time a good product and guarantee what we print. That is personal bashing
Jeff, like attacking Rich and his business dealings, ownership of MnR, borrowings etc, and I told you then also that is out-of-bounds speculation and just dirty, you make yourself look bad and dirty too and does nothing of value. Sure, Hammer Printex and Robert because they wronged so many people, and I agree with that fully, but every press ordered has been delivered by 2M, there have been faults, most likely way more than mentioned on here, they will own up to any faults and acknowledge, and put right the issues just like Rich with no latent issues dragging on and no dirt. Sure they are small, but they have capacity, they meet their leadtimes quoted, and as yet Fat Bob can't sell that many for them not to deliver, but from their perspective he adds enough sales to help that Rick at RPm just couldn't put through and they need volume enough as well as any business. We all take orders from the odd customer we would prefer not to deal with I guess, but an order is an order. I have customers who I can't afford to sack, they have volume and value, so we put them out. Their customer may not like them that much, but doesn't mean I don't deliver a fantastic shirt on time, on price and to amazing quality for them.

pushing ink · April 1st, 2012, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Printwizard

Bashing Barnes Ok, bashing 2M not. They are small, so are lots of companies, mine and yours included, doesn't mean our word is not good and we deliver on time a good product and guarantee what we print. That is personal bashing
Jeff, like attacking Rich and his business dealings, ownership of MnR, borrowings etc, and I told you then also that is out-of-bounds speculation and just dirty, you make yourself look bad and dirty too and does nothing of value. Sure, Hammer Printex and Robert because they wronged so many people, and I agree with that fully, but every press ordered has been delivered by 2M, there have been faults, most likely way more than mentioned on here, they will own up to any faults and acknowledge, and put right the issues just like Rich with no latent issues dragging on and no dirt. Sure they are small, but they have capacity, they meet their leadtimes quoted, and as yet Fat Bob can't sell that many for them not to deliver, but from their perspective he adds enough sales to help that Rick at RPm just couldn't put through and they need volume enough as well as any business. We all take orders from the odd customer we would prefer not to deal with I guess, but an order is an order. I have customers who I can't afford to sack, they have volume and value, so we put them out. Their customer may not like them that much, but doesn't mean I don't deliver a fantastic shirt on time, on price and to amazing quality for them.

You are getting a little to sensitive and over philosophying, and why do you keep bringing up M&R .

If 2M is such a great company, why would they sell through Barnes??
Now that your buying directly through 2M they are out of bounds, I think you need to research when, how and why they got their start and then we will talk out of bounds or as you say" DIRTY".

The bottom line is that 2M is in bed with Robert Barnes and the last I heard is they were telling Robert Barnes that Rick owed them a shlt load of money. Barnes himself called one of RPM's customer and gave him the impression that he would not get his press from Rick and there was no press ordered, Barnes told him and me! If they want to sell more and get into bed with Barnes than it's fair game!!!

Printwizard · April 1st, 2012, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by pushing ink

You are getting a little to sensitive and over philosophying, and why do you keep bringing up M&R .

If 2M is such a great company, why would they sell through Barnes??
Now that your buying directly through 2M they are out of bounds, I think you need to research when, how and why they got their start and then we will talk out of bounds or as you say" DIRTY".

The bottom line is that 2M is in bed with Robert Barnes and the last I heard is they were telling Robert Barnes that Rick owed them a shlt load of money. Barnes himself called one of RPM's customer and gave him the impression that he would not get his press from Rick and there was no press ordered, Barnes told him and me! If they want to sell more and get into bed with Barnes than it's fair game!!!

Sorry Jeff, there is much I don't know, but if it is speculative it pays not to type it, it must be fact, you already realize that from dissing Rich, should learn.
Nobody is out of bounds if they are dirty. Robert may be dirty, and Printex, that's proven, but you could open up being sued if you are incorrect, not only that, it's just bad.

2M takes orders from Barnes, might make him a bad customer, doesn't make them a bad supplier. I could create a list of things and go on and on and on about another brands distributor I know, but the reflection is on the distributor, not the manufacturer. I happen to love the man and machine, just a big group has issues with the distributor. But that's two different companies. I could go on and on and on and make some mess, but that's not the point, but I could does not mean I should. Not fair to tarnish the MFG by their agent here.

I don't know anything of Ricks business, I think he runs a great business as nobody talks bad, the fact you say Robert brought stuff up may be his invention, and I wouldn't trust him not to have said it. I feel it's unlikely that 2M would have said anything to him or condone it, it's not his busineness any more than its yours or mine, that's between 2M and Rick which if anything is likely the only two parties who will know. typing hearsay on a forum won't make it real.
All it does is prove is that you are an idiot for still listening and believing Barnes.
You will just get yourself in more trouble doing to 2M what you did unjustly to Rich. They aren't your enemy and they didn't do you wrong like Barnes and Printex did.
Don't get me wrong, I feel sorry that you were ripped off when you were so good to offer them a chance, and you did no wrong to them to get ripped off. I don't have any problem with you trashing the forum about Barnes and Printex, and even that he is representing the Mustang brand created, but 2M is different people who have done no wrong. No I don't know the history, happy for you to open it up, as long as its factually correct and not just speculation, and supposition or leading people to believe something that's not correct. I would protect you and your business and brand or anyone else's from lies and deceit where it is maliciously targeted and not deserved because guilt from action is different than guilt by association. If they fukup then I will hand you the stones to throw, I'll be the first, but until then.....