Revolver mode

vicb · June 28th, 2011, 02:28 PM

And just a bit of new technology history...We designed and manufactured control panels using push buttons in the 80's. I the 90's we used membrane switches with a lexan overlay just like on the printex. The membrane switches held up fine but the lexan always cracked and eventually broke off where the dimple is in the lexan. We stop using the membrane switches because the overlay, no matter what substrate that was used, the repeated use cracked the overlay exposing the membrane switch. We changed in the later 90's to touch screen. Today, if we design a system that is not touchscreen, we use push buttons.

preston · June 28th, 2011, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by vicb

And just a bit of new technology history...We designed and manufactured control panels using push buttons in the 80's. I the 90's we used membrane switches with a lexan overlay just like on the printex. The membrane switches held up fine but the lexan always cracked and eventually broke off where the dimple is in the lexan. We stop using the membrane switches because the overlay, no matter what substrate that was used, the repeated use cracked the overlay exposing the membrane switch. We changed in the later 90's to touch screen. Today, if we design a system that is not touchscreen, we use push buttons.

My Rhino has membrane with no lexan overlay and no problems at all with anything cracking. And just about every cell phone out there that does not use a touch screen have membrane key pads and never have any problems. I think may you just got some bad membrane panels.

inkman996 · June 28th, 2011, 02:47 PM

My brother gt541 uses membrane panel and ours is completely trashed, we tried to purchase a replacement panel but was told we could only buy the panel and switches as a whole, what a joke.

Yet our Barudan is spotless with many years of use, so I guess time is what will tell if a particular membrane panel is quality or not.

vicb · June 28th, 2011, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by preston

My Rhino has membrane with no lexan overlay and no problems at all with anything cracking. And just about every cell phone out there that does not use a touch screen have membrane key pads and never have any problems. I think may you just got some bad membrane panels.

What material is used for the overlay on your rhino?

preston · June 28th, 2011, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by vicb

What material is used for the overlay on your rhino?

You should be able to ask Rick with RPM because they use the same membrane panels as my Rhino.

Promo Print · June 28th, 2011, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by vicb

I have several patents and have spent many hours and $$$ researching patents in the past and you can patent a program to perform a specific function. The revolver program was not in existence on any automatic printer when it was patented. M&R wrote a program to automatically perform the same functions that were commonly performed manually.
I have worked for years designing control systems for prisons and we have several patents on door openers and also software that controls the opening of the doors automatically. If you can patent the software to open a door, you can patent the programming software for an automatic printer.
If you want to find out anything about patents, go to the closest major university's library and you can hire college students to do thorough and formal patent searches for you. We have used students at LSU on many occasions.

So, does that mean that every prison in the world, or at least in countries where you have your patent registered is using your software for opening doors?
Back to revolver. M&R wrote program, I agree. But what if I write program as well? I am not going to copy their one. will be fully mine. Do you want to say that I have no right to write program if they have patent on it?
It just not make sense to me.
Imagine Microsoft has patent on windows OS or Microsoft office. Apple would not exist as their OS works on windows principle as well.

Promo Print · June 28th, 2011, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by vicb

And just a bit of new technology history...We designed and manufactured control panels using push buttons in the 80's. I the 90's we used membrane switches with a lexan overlay just like on the printex. The membrane switches held up fine but the lexan always cracked and eventually broke off where the dimple is in the lexan. We stop using the membrane switches because the overlay, no matter what substrate that was used, the repeated use cracked the overlay exposing the membrane switch. We changed in the later 90's to touch screen. Today, if we design a system that is not touchscreen, we use push buttons.

In printing industry all machine related to printing have membrane panels or touch screen. If it is membrane panel only push button is emergency stop. If it is touch screen only push buttons are start, stop and emergency stop.

Promo Print · August 30th, 2011, 08:01 PM

While browsing MHM web page I found that they have Twister option as extra. By reading about Twister it sounded very similar to Revolver mode as it rotate more than once around.
Here is what MHM says about twister

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TWISTER Multi-Round Print / Flash Sequence Customizer

Twister is a software option that enables a single flash to be used to flash multiple colors, thus extending light-on-dark printing capabilities of smaller machines.

How does it work? With Twister, the t-shirt can go around the machine multiple times, and with each round, the print head operation can be unique. This functionality allows a single flash to be used after any to all colors, in any print order AND any number of times!

Consider this example. A typical 5-color light-on-dark job requires an 8-color press with two flashes. Flash-1 is placed in Head-2, and flashes after the underbase-white. Flash-2 is placed in Head-7 and flashes prior to a highlight-white. With Twister, the t-shirt can go around the press twice, utilizing Flash-1 both after the underbase-white, and again prior to the highlight-white. Twister enables the same job to be produced on a 6-color machine with a single flash!

Because individual heads can be used any number of times,Twister also allows for greater build-ups of certain colors.

Thanks to Synchroprint's graphical interface, setting up Twister is far easier than with complicated revolving programs.

While it is always faster to use multiple flash units, Twister is a great alternative for those with limited space or budgets.

http://www.hirschinternational.com/P...s/Twister.aspx

Now, interesting part to me is that Rich on DigitSmith (or someone close to Rich, can not remember for sure) was explicit that Revolver patent means that no other MFG can use function for machine to program the order of which heads print and flash etc over multiple rotations in one direction.
My question would be is Twister significant improvement over Revolver so they can freely advertise it or they struck some deal with M&R so M&R lets them use Revolver renamed as Twister?

Read more: http://boards.screenprintersopen.com...#ixzz1WYmaDQSX

Gilligan · August 30th, 2011, 09:06 PM

I checked out that forum recently...

Printwizard · August 31st, 2011, 03:26 AM

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I checked out recently...

This is the image inside the screenprinting knowledge section of Gilligans brain. Thought he would know more now he is insinuating he is may be working for MnR....