Richpeace, Feyia, Richrui and other chineese brands
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January 23rd, 2014, 09:53 AM
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Re: Richpeace, Feyia, Richrui and other chineese brands
Robert, this is not USA(unfortunately). Tajima is popular but pre-owned market doesn't exist. Only few pieces, really old. Buying used machines from Tajima rep. doesn't make sense, price is close to a new one(reason above)
This topic is not for economical advices because we live in different economical conditions.
I just want to know how does the newest generation of china machines work in production. Thank to pd87 I know that Richrui is not for me. Feyia looks very "garage". And how about Richpeace? Anybody who knows models that are now in their offer?
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January 23rd, 2014, 04:59 PM
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Re: Richpeace, Feyia, Richrui and other chineese brands
ah, sorry about that, very few tend to put WHERE they are, so it can be hard to provide regional experiences that make sense. I have experienced Richpeace a couple of years ago and it was not pretty for the client that owned them... now maybe they have improved a lot in 2 years, but I tend to bet probably not. sorry. Still think your answer is a resounding NOOOO... lol use the current machines as many hours a week as possible and then buy a new Tajima if is is nearly the same as a preowned one.
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January 24th, 2014, 07:50 AM
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Re: Richpeace, Feyia, Richrui and other chineese brands
Why was he unsatisfied with Richpeace? Because of speed, thread breaks or something else? I'm not new in embroidery and I know general opinion about china stuff. I'd like to collect more precise, technical and up-to-date information about each brand from real users.
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January 24th, 2014, 01:25 PM
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Re: Richpeace, Feyia, Richrui and other chineese brands
maybe this link will help? http://www.ajstitch.com/index.php/aj...idery-machines
but it kinda sounds like you are just looking for a positive review to justify a decision you have already made?
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January 24th, 2014, 05:55 PM
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Re: Richpeace, Feyia, Richrui and other chineese brands
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Why was he unsatisfied with Richpeace? Because of speed, thread breaks or something else? I'm not new in embroidery and I know general opinion about china stuff. I'd like to collect more precise, technical and up-to-date information about each brand from real users.
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Why ask for an opinion when you clearly are fishing for the "right" answer? The chinese don't engineer embroidery machines, the Japanese did it for them. They then took them apart and copied them. A simple spring or machined part is constructed from an engineer's standpoint with careful application of temper or heat treating. Chinese engineering? Hey that looks close. It might run but in the long run it most likely won't last becoming a very nice piece of industrial scrap metal.
I can't offer you any precise information about a particular machine because it's not worth my hard earned money to spend it on questionable equipment. It's ultimately up to you but why do you want to waste time and money on equipment that uses different hoops, fixtures and methods when in the long run sticking with similar machines would net you more of a gain?
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January 25th, 2014, 02:15 AM
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Re: Richpeace, Feyia, Richrui and other chineese brands
Thank you Robert, that article is really helpful. No, I didn't make any decission. As I said before, I work in much harder conditions comparing to Usa. Japan machines cost 30% more than for american market and the pricing for embroidery is maybe 50% of what you guys take from your clients. Only the payroll is a little smaller. My Tajimas do their quality work and nothing will change with it. At this point I'm only considering a new cheap multihead machine to do easy designs and give me some extra money. Taking tajima to do this job kills the profit at least for 5 years(typical lease time).
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January 25th, 2014, 06:51 AM
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Re: Richpeace, Feyia, Richrui and other chineese brands
Good machines are always cheaper than people in the long run. From a 19 year Barudan house.
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January 28th, 2014, 11:17 PM
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Re: Richpeace, Feyia, Richrui and other chineese brands
Julianne, so what part of the world are you in? 30 percent increase in price of machine yet half of ability to charge and only a little reduction in payroll to me would mean finding a "niche" that you could charge more for and become a "specialist" in.... several of my clients have done this... and after a few years in a particular "niche" they are working less but earning more. maybe this is the answer to your problem? so you can earn more with the machines you have and Not buy any more for now?
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January 29th, 2014, 02:27 AM
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Re: Richpeace, Feyia, Richrui and other chineese brands
I run my business in Czech Republic, Europe. Generally I do custom embroidery but people here are still not able to pay as much as they should for high quality work. Low price is the most important factor. I see that china machines are becoming very popular so I'm a little afraid that in short time I will have to fight with prices even lower than now.
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January 29th, 2014, 08:32 PM
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Re: Richpeace, Feyia, Richrui and other chineese brands
Julianne, There is always going to be customers looking for cheap, just like there are always customers that are more concerned about quality and service.
We fight that in the USA as well but maybe with different variables.
Buying cheap machines is not always a real savings and I think that is what many people here are trying to caution you about. The savings up front could end up costing you more in the long run and it will surely effect the efficiency of your production as well as the quality of the work you produce.
Personally I would never want to save money on a machine and that savings simply end up causing me headaches and more cost in the long run.
Move forward with caution. It seems that many people here are trying to give you a word of caution and I personally think they are giving you good advice.
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