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Old July 10th, 2012, 11:59 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hey everyone,

We are adding another automatic to our setup. We are going AC heads and AC indexer. I have narrowed it down to 4 brands, one of those brands is S.Roque(out of Portugal). I have seen the machine in use, and talked with 1 user. The machines are QUITE impressive, but I have not been able to find much if any reviews or users on any forums. I have plenty info, specs, reviews, ect. on the other brands, but aside from the specs on the S.Roque there does not seem to be much. Guess that could be a good thing? No complaints... Anyone out there with any reviews, experiences, or words of wisdom?
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Old July 11th, 2012, 07:08 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Give me a call. Sonny. 404-895-1796
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Old July 11th, 2012, 08:33 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Sonny W#TF if you have some useful information about the new machines in American then spill your beans on the forum, that is what its for. I for one seen that one of our suppliers is now selling Sroque and I am very curious about the machines in this country.
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Old July 11th, 2012, 09:33 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I would but I have questions as to what he prints as well as the other manufacturers he is looking at. That way I can give him the pluses and minuses in a comparison. The Sroque that I am familiar with is an oval. There are some distinct differences between an oval and a circular machine. Are we talking apples to apples or apples to oranges. As far as ovals go, I like them and dislike them. I am a fan of precision ovals for first auto buyers. Many reasons. If you can print on an oval then you can print on anything. They are inexpensive and if set up properly will match print quality of just about any press out there MHM included. I have too many questions to give an answer that will benefit him without that knowledge. Many people look for totally different things in presses and some spend too much for things that will not benefit them for a long time. I would answer the same post from you or anyone else the same way.
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Printficient- We print mainly shirts, and MHM is one of the other finalists. I am not considering one of their oval machines, either the BASIC or ECO, just need to figure out all the advantages of one over the other.

Inkman996- Who is the supplier that you see advertising them? I contacted someone in CA, but the sales person seemed clueless.
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Old July 11th, 2012, 11:14 AM   #6 (permalink)
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http://www.techsupportsps.com/
Talk to Alan Howe he is a great guy

Sonny he asked for actual personal info on the sroque machine, being new to our market a lot of people would love to hear about the new machine. You could have simply stated on a reply what you do know about Sroque no matter how limited it may be. But we all know your real agenda. This is a forum for information sharing and learning it is useless in principal if you dont share what you know when asked but turn it into something totally different to suit your agenda.

Now thats out of the way, why dont you tell us what you like and dislike about sroque and what is unique about the machine?
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http://www.techsupportsps.com/
Talk to Alan Howe he is a great guy

Sonny he asked for actual personal info on the sroque machine, being new to our market a lot of people would love to hear about the new machine. You could have simply stated on a reply what you do know about Sroque no matter how limited it may be. But we all know your real agenda. This is a forum for information sharing and learning it is useless in principal if you dont share what you know when asked but turn it into something totally different to suit your agenda.

Now thats out of the way, why dont you tell us what you like and dislike about sroque and what is unique about the machine?
I do not know what I have done to elicit a response such as this. But OK I will say that the S Roque Basic is a MHM SA knock off. Great ideas but not comparable with some of the newer presses from other manufacturers. Also being the guinea pig for anything in a new setting is something few can handle. With that said the carriage arm feature as well as the print method is as good now as it was in the 80's when MHM first blew all manufacturers out of the water. 30 years ago the Basic would be up at the top. Today with the M&R Challenger 3, The MHM 4000, S Type and X Type the basic is far behind the curve.
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That wasn't hard was it? You could have wrote all that the first time and then this information is available for the masses. I know your agenda will be to talk the person into a MHM even you will admit to that, but the real question is why? Whats the pros and cons of the two machines in comparison?
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Printficient-What is it about the carriage arm feature and the print method that you do not care for on the BASIC? Is it that much different on the ECO? The S.Roque website does not make it seem like there is a huge difference between the two.

We currently have a M&R/Anatol/every other company style auto. I am not a huge fan of how much the press "shakes"- I am talking about the abrupt STOP it comes to after indexing(I know a lot of that has to do with the fact our current press is pneumatic indexing).
The S.Roque seems like an impressive machine, very similar to the MHM. They almost have a M&R/Anatol thing going on(both presses are rather similar in style). I am impressed with MHM, they are smooth running highly capable machines. That is what I am looking for, and why both these manufacturers are in my "top 4". I guess I just do not understand what makes the MHM command a higher price tag. Reputation? Service? If the main difference is MHM has been established and sold units in the US already, to me that is not a big deal and not worth the difference in price.

Hey Inkmann996, I checked out the website you posted but did not see anything about S.Roque. On the actual S.Roque website it only lists one distributor in the US and they are in CA.

Thanks both of you for your input so far!
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Call Techsupport and talk to Allen, they do not have anything on their site about the machines. Like Inkman said he is a nice guy, very knowledgeable. I spoke to him about the machines about two months ago.

I looked into them a little when we were looking for a new auto, liked what I saw but at the time the closest dist was Dominican Republic. I have talked to a few people who have worked on them and all had good things to say.
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