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Old October 20th, 2008, 10:00 PM   #1 (permalink)
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we need a logo digitized but so far noone has been able to give us the detail and look we wanted. We are trying to have a logo that is the same quality and detail that a nike or ralph lauren hourse would have. the logo needs to be that tight and be able to show the detail in our design. what do i need to ask of our digitizer to make this happen? Is there a thread type or number we should use and tell him? Is there a type of needle, backing we should use?

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what type of fabric are you sewing on?
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at the very least I hope you are using thinner 60wt threads and needles for this? Getting fine detail and smaller than usual lettering with standard 40 wt thread is probably asking too much. Often when we are requested to match something done offshore, we show that much of the detail work is in 60wt
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we are putting these on cotton polo shirts and plan on putting them on hats and fleece. We have not use a 60w thread or needle yet. is that the suggestion? Before we do that, does the digitizer need to make any changes? When looking at the design, it just seems to be so spread out that even if we changethe thread and needle, it would still not be tight enough. i am not sure if i an asking the correct questions for my digitizer to do this correct.
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3 very different fabrics to sew on and will yield 3 different results.

I assume you have told the digitizer the fabrics you are sewing on, correct? and your expectation?

density is one thing that can be changed. The suggestion about needles and thread above is another. the needle spacing in the design could be tightened up. there are several things that jump to mind but each will have an impact. could be good or bad. most of the time, you have to find a balance between the fabrics and advise the customer about how fabrics impact the sew out. In your case, you have 3 very different fabrics. If you get it to sew on the fleece like you want, its not going to sew on the polos the way you expect and vice versa.
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Old October 22nd, 2008, 06:37 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Here is a stitchout of what we have so far. see the issues we are having?
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Yes. Maybe your digitizer need to fix it.

The center white fill has already moved away from the border.
I am not sure if that's from the digitizing or just from the pulling of fabric on this sample.
If every single embroidery come out the same way, you really need to fix the digitizing.

Although I don't actually see how the logo run on machine, my guess is the logo run FILL first, then move to do BLACK STAR, then it do the BORDER last. We normally do the border right after the fill to hold it. So it won't get shake and moved by the machine. If that's the case, you need to change sequence.


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that logo is terrible. that could be a variety of things the choppy edges could be tension issues. but boarder sewing away, are you using tear away of cut away?? sometimes when your on fabric like that the registration is better with cut away. also you dont need special needles for this thats a pretty standard logo, there's no reason why 40 woulsnt work. my advice if u did all those things id say its the digitizing. the stars are choppy the outlines a mess and that looks like isacord thread is it???
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I agree, 40 should work, but 60 will give you a much crisper look... just depends if these are regular product or if you want a higher, more polished look. "Just good enough" embroidery or "wow" embroidery. Try using a local digitizer who will provide you with the sewn sample, then you are assured of the quality up front. That could save you alot of headache with any order!
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