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Old January 24th, 2008, 06:24 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Angry Warning watch out for scammers!!

I have post a thread about selling my sunstar embroidery machine.(just below)

I got a email from a scammer - [email address]

It was such a obvious scam it ****es me off that I even believed an inch.



1. The first e-mail
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Hello Seller,
Compliment of the Seasons to you , I am Maria Chamber from London , United-Kingdom. I saw your Embroidery Machine advert while surfing through net and I am willing to buy the Embroidery Machine and I am a serious buyer and I want to buy it on time . I would like you to mail me the following details of the Embroidery Machine below :

1 . Last asking Price of the Embroidery Machine .
2 .The Embroidery Machine present conditions.
3 . Also a picture of the Embroidery Machine if available.

Regards,
Maria
Email: [email address]
-------------------------------------------------------------London my ***

2. The second e-mail
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Hello
Thanks for your email so i am really intested in buying the machine from you and pls send me more pics of the machine and i have contact my shipping agent for the pick up of the machine in ur place and I will proceed the payment with bank check and it will be issue out to you as soon as posible so let me know if u can send some money to the shipping agent so they can come to check for the condition of the machine and i promise u that i will send the payment to you soonest
can you download a yahoo messenger id so we can chat
hope to hear from you
maria.

-----------------Must be some kind of shipping agent to inspect a embroidery machine.



3. Third e-mail
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Hello
Thanks for your email so I am really intersted in purchasing your machine and i will need to talk to you on yahoo messenger tonight so i can explain thing to you well and i cant wait to chat with you
you can add me [email address] cuz i alway be online there so hope to hear from you
maria.

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4. Conversation on yahoo

mariawilliams002: u there
chunjehy: Oh Hello
mariawilliams002: How are U doing today
chunjehy: Fine Thank you
chunjehy: It 's good to finally get to talk
mariawilliams002: Sound great to hear this from you
chunjehy: So do you have anymore questions about the machine??
mariawilliams002: yeah
mariawilliams002: can u send me more pics of the machine
chunjehy: go ahead
chunjehy: sure actually I'll send some more videos
chunjehy: 'cause all the other
chunjehy: pictures are basically the same
chunjehy: with what I already send you
chunjehy: like the angle and stuff like that
mariawilliams002: OK
mariawilliams002: do you have a webcam
chunjehy: not right now but I have it in the office
chunjehy: so maybe tomorrow ^^
mariawilliams002: alright
chunjehy: Here if the video working with the monitor
chunjehy: here is the video
mariawilliams002: OK
mariawilliams002: I am really intersted in the machine and I want u to sell it for me
chunjehy: sure we would love to
chunjehy: So are you interested in all three of them??
mariawilliams002: yea and how much are u willing to sell those machine
chunjehy: 45000 US dollars for each
chunjehy: If you buy all three of them
chunjehy: we include you two extra monitors and all the threads
chunjehy: and some other supplys all we have
chunjehy: This is the picture of all the threads we have
chunjehy: And this is a video
chunjehy: of some of the programs we have
chunjehy: which you use
mariawilliams002: I am a serious buyer and I want to buy it on time
chunjehy: I would like to sell as soon as possible too
chunjehy: So are you going to come and inspect the machine??
mariawilliams002: Yeah I will send a shipping company to come and inspect the machine from you when we finallize our deal
chunjehy: Great is he coming from London??
mariawilliams002: Yeah but I Want you to send some money to the Shipping agent so they can inspect it and I will issue out the Payment for you Immedialty
chunjehy: To the shipping agent??
chunjehy: If you
chunjehy: are willing to
chunjehy: buy all three of them
chunjehy: I am willing to pay half and half
chunjehy: for the shipping agent to come and inspect
mariawilliams002: Yeah I am really intersted in buyin the three machine from you
chunjehy: oh sorry
chunjehy: can you send that back again
mariawilliams002: ?
chunjehy: didn't you just send me picture??
chunjehy: because I just canceled a file
chunjehy: and I thought you just send me a photo
mariawilliams002: I just want to send u a pix of me and there a little problem with my pc now
mariawilliams002: OK
chunjehy: ah...okay
mariawilliams002: yeah
chunjehy: So first can you send me some information of your shipping agent
chunjehy: And we can work out a deal for the payment for your shipping agent to come
chunjehy: and inspect the machine
mariawilliams002: yeah i will send the shipping agent info to you as soon as possible or i will give u there email so u can email them
mariawilliams002: when are u going to make the payment to the shipping agent so they can come and inspect the Machine
chunjehy: If the inspector coming from London or is he here in Mexico
chunjehy: As soon as possible
chunjehy: We can do it immediately but
chunjehy: we would like to be sure about it too
chunjehy: We would like the information and stuff like that of the shipping agent
chunjehy: and cost and everything?
chunjehy: Do you happen to know how much it will cost
mariawilliams002: Can you get the funds to them today so they will come and inspect the Machine
chunjehy: Yes but where??
mariawilliams002: you will need to send the money to them via western union and i think they will give you the cost in 1 hours time
chunjehy: Is it a shipping company in UK??
mariawilliams002: It a private shipping agent and I will inform them to contact you u soon
mariawilliams002: OK
mariawilliams002: Kindly delete the advert from the site you placed it for sale and as he is so much interested in buying it
chunjehy: Sure
chunjehy: Then
chunjehy: after he comes and inspect it
chunjehy: and finds everything okay
chunjehy: then
chunjehy: are we signing the deal with the agent
chunjehy: ??
chunjehy: here??
chunjehy: or does he have to go back and inform
chunjehy: you and the buyer has to come or something??
chunjehy: I am not really familiar with this kind of process
chunjehy: So we would like to be really know all the specific information of the deal
mariawilliams002: the shipping agent will be with you still you comfirm ur full payment for all those machine but i want u to delete the advert from the site you placed it for sale
chunjehy: I'm sorry I just looked up via wester union and it is not shipping agent
chunjehy: It's a place where you transfer money
chunjehy: I am sorry but if we are doing a business I would use a place safe
mariawilliams002: yes that where u will need to send the money to the shipping agent so they will come and inspect the Machine
chunjehy: I'm sorry but I can provide a place to sleep and eat and everything if the
chunjehy: shipping agent comes here but
chunjehy: I can cut out the cost from the machine
chunjehy: well??
chunjehy: This is such a fraud isn't it??
mariawilliams002: ?????????????
chunjehy: I am sorry but it is really suspicious
mariawilliams002: I just want to contact the shipping agent
chunjehy: But Via western union is not shipping agent
mariawilliams002: I want u to send a sum of 3000 dollars to the shipping agrent so they can come and inspect the Machine
chunjehy: You can't just ask me to send money with out any proof
chunjehy: How am I to be sure this is not a fraud
chunjehy: how many times do I have to ask you what is the name of the shipping agent?
chunjehy: and don'\t tell me it is via western union
chunjehy: 'cause it's not
mariawilliams002: I mean it a private shipping company
mariawilliams002: NANSO SHIPPING AGENT !!!
chunjehy: And I'm really sorry but I can't pay it first
chunjehy: If he arrives here
chunjehy: I can pay him here face to face
mariawilliams002: OK
mariawilliams002: I WILL GET BACK TO YOU IN 1 HOURS TIME
chunjehy: okay
mariawilliams002: I NEED TO CONTACCT THE SHIPPING AGENT OK



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Can clearly see we are not having conversation. Gave me some lame
excuse about contacting for shipping agent. Never got any answer from her.
Can't believe I was so naive. Well thanks to her I learn something about
Western Union and to beware of douche bags.

I mean what kind of embroidery buyer doesn't even ask anything about the machine
and just asks for pictures. Can't believe I wasted about 2 hours of my precious
life time.

Where did she even get educated to scam.
I bet I can work up a scam better than her or him.
Asking me to send money without any varification or proof of anykind.
Oh I'm sorry she was going to send me her picture.

Asked her about shippping agent and it takes her like what 30minutes
to say Nanso shipping agent. Probably have been looking it up in google
for all that time. Lamest scammer of all my life.

I justed wanted to inform you all embroidery dealers
what just happened to me the past 3 days.
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Old January 24th, 2008, 06:44 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Exclamation "Dear Seller" raises red flags

Oh YEAH, anytime someone replies with, "Dear Seller" where "Seller" is in the subject somewhere. They ALWAYS say they'll send you a "Cashier's Check" and want you to immediately cash it so you can send a portion of it somewhere to "Cover the shipping".

If you EVER get ANY kind of check, first and formost, take it to your bank and have them run a tracer on it. I guarantee that it will be a fake check 100% of the time.


SELLER BEWARE!!!

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Old January 24th, 2008, 09:42 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Default Re: Warning watch out for scammers!!

Hey,
I just wanted to tell you that you are not that naive.... I was exchanging emails with the same person for the last 2 days... I think she(or he) finally gave up when I said that I would have to get everything checked out at my financial institution.... and what the heck does "i want to buy it on time" mean? Like we would let our machines go and just expect her to pay us over time???? Oh well, Just didnt want you to beat yourself up too much, I was in the same boat... Tammy
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Old January 25th, 2008, 10:37 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Default Re: Warning watch out for scammers!!

Wow, you are much more patient than I am... that took forever to get a price or inspector info! Hope the next interested party is above board and you make a deal.
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Old January 28th, 2008, 11:36 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Default Re: Warning watch out for scammers!!

Has anyone noticed that the same pictures of the same machines appear both here and on Ebay? I have noticed it time and time again. Someone is taking pics from here and claiming to sell them on Ebay. Locations will be different. Same pictures. Check out this ebay listing 190193202211 and compare with the new listing of the guy who says he and his machine are in London!Be vigilant!
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Old February 27th, 2008, 10:45 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Default Re: Warning watch out for scammers!!

similar situation in craigslist..How come all the scammers starts with United Kingdom..
Anything Good to be true in Craigslist are starts with United Kingdom seller and and will ask you pay some weird method..Becarful...
and thanks for the tip.
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Old February 28th, 2008, 08:02 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Default Re: Warning watch out for scammers!!

The same person contacted me as well and as soon as she or he talked about sending me a check for more than my asking price and wanted me to give it to the shipper that was going to pick it up the machine the extra money from the check I told that person to not contact me again and that what they were asking me to do was illegal and I wanted no part of it. I contacted my local police and they told me that these people get you to cash a stolen check, come and pick up your machine and then the bank 4-5 days later figures out that the check was stolen and the money is took out of your account and you are out the money and your equipment. If your going to sell a machine you want your buyer to either do a wire transfer to your account or set up a escrow account with a bank and have the money put in that account. NEVER take a check or money order from your buyer. You must protect yourself!
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Old February 28th, 2008, 02:45 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Exclamation Report all scammers to these agencies

Forward (with the full headers) to both of these agencies

[email address]

[email address]

J.R. Sanford
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185 NW Chehalis AV
Chehalis, WA 98532
(shop) 360-748-7346
(cell) 360-880-6384
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Angry Re: Warning watch out for scammers!!

I had emailed someone on Craiglist about a Pr-600 about two months ago and he sent some email scam about how he was in Canada at his parents ranch but his machine was local. Sounded fishy so I just never replied. Well I emailed someone else the other day on Craigslist and he copied the same exact email. I emailed back boy you sure have been at your parents Ranch a long time. Where do they come up with stuff???????????????
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I had emailed someone on Craiglist about a Pr-600 about two months ago and he sent some email scam about how he was in Canada at his parents ranch but his machine was local. Sounded fishy so I just never replied. Well I emailed someone else the other day on Craigslist and he copied the same exact email. I emailed back boy you sure have been at your parents Ranch a long time. Where do they come up with stuff???????????????
I contacted the same individual, the ad was on the Dallas Craigslist. When I contact him, same story, he was in Canada but said he could complete the transaction thru Ebay's iSold. Said the machine was in Dallas, but would not tell me the exact location. That ended any more correspondence.
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