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What is an acceptable amount of time to wait for a press.

View Poll Results: What do you think an acceptable amount of time is to wait for a press?
2-4 Weeks 5 13.16%
4-8 Weeks 23 60.53%
8-12 Weeks 5 13.16%
12-26 Weeks 4 10.53%
26+ Weeks 1 2.63%
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Old March 16th, 2012, 10:40 AM   #61 (permalink)
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Old March 16th, 2012, 10:42 AM   #62 (permalink)
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tbayprint is "disappointed" about M&R's delivery being twice as long as what is "often quoted"
Based on what we have read thus far, Would it be ok for another manu like Workhorse to go visit tbayprint and interfere with M&R's contract by delivering a Falcon M?
Not ok with me (but just because we're not interested)

Our "disappointment" lies more with the fact that we are eagerly awaiting our new press. I'm certainly not trying to compare it to the ridiculously awful situations mentioned above.
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Old March 16th, 2012, 10:55 AM   #63 (permalink)
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It was two 16 coloPrintex presses.
How many Challenger III's did the customer buy from M&R?
The dollar amounts involved here are very high, 8 Challenger III's would be well over $1 million dollars, with this kind of money at stake it might explain why things on the internet get so heated.
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Old March 16th, 2012, 10:59 AM   #64 (permalink)
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tbayprint is "disappointed" about M&R's delivery being twice as long as what is "often quoted"
Based on what we have read thus far, Would it be ok for another manu like Workhorse to go visit tbayprint and interfere with M&R's contract by delivering a Falcon M?
As long as they are ok with the wait I don't see it as a problem. If they say 9 weeks I'm sure they mean 9 weeks not 9 weeks then maybe a few more then maybe another 10.............

It's a free market, there is nothing to stop another mfg from offering a quote. It would be up to tbayprint to act on it. I would hope that if they decided to act on it the loosing mfg would refund a portion of the deposit.
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Old March 16th, 2012, 11:00 AM   #65 (permalink)
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Mr. Alias is not even touching on the situation with Saxby. Jeff got screwed on his 16 color so he called M&R for help, M&R did not call him as Mr. Alias would make you believe and what did M&R do? They provided a press ASAP for a company that runs large quatities that currently had two ten colors both broken, being the busy season is approaching Saxby needed more production capability immediately, but most importantly he needed a solid machine that would not break down and have no support behind it.

I will repeat again M&R's best salesman is Robert Barnes. Rich you should have an award made up for salesman of the year and send it to South Carolina lol.
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Old March 16th, 2012, 11:02 AM   #66 (permalink)
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The subject of this thread is, What is an acceptable amount of time to wait for a press.
Are we changing it to, What is an acceptable amount of time for a competing manu to wait for a missed press delivery date before interfering in another's contract.
We are still waiting for our 16 color or money?

With that said, "we love M&R"!! M&R has been the best thing that has happened to my company since I implemented free coffee in the shop. LOL

Seriously Rich Hoffman is the best and when he tells you something you can count on it. Rich Hoffman is a mans man! Thanks Rich Hoffman for saving my company!!!!

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Default Re: What is an acceptable amount of time to wait for a press.

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tbayprint is "disappointed" about M&R's delivery being twice as long as what is "often quoted"
Based on what we have read thus far, Would it be ok for another manu like Workhorse to go visit tbayprint and interfere with M&R's contract by delivering a Falcon M?
Interesting concept for sure.

I don't think these scenarios relate as well as you would like.

M&R has went in and ACTUALLY provided working presses when Playtex simply HADN'T been able to deliver in a reasonable amount of time or in one case even build one that worked properly. This isn't the same thing as the Tbay deal, he ordered a press got a quote and still chose to buy. He isn't waiting 6+ months for a machine like a lot of Playtex owners, he's being told out front the wait time, I bet you it shows up on time or early and it will work as advertised.

Surely you can see the contrast here. The shops that have decided to buy M&R after the fact in these cases are because the machines they ALREADY paid for are not showing up as promised.

Take your blinders off. If Progressive swings in and provides a press for Tbay, M&R probably has a procedure for that, im sure its happened before. Either way, I bet M&R would never take 100% of someones money, and NOT send them a press.
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Not ok with me (but just because we're not interested)

Our "disappointment" lies more with the fact that we are eagerly awaiting our new press. I'm certainly not trying to compare it to the ridiculously awful situations mentioned above.
Isn't context awesome. Thank's for delivering some! lol!
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As long as they are ok with the wait I don't see it as a problem. If they say 9 weeks I'm sure they mean 9 weeks not 9 weeks then maybe a few more then maybe another 10.............

It's a free market, there is nothing to stop another mfg from offering a quote. It would be up to tbayprint to act on it. I would hope that if they decided to act on it the loosing mfg would refund a portion of the deposit.
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Old March 16th, 2012, 11:16 AM   #70 (permalink)
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So let me get this straight... your FIRST post on this thread is:

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Each of us have heard that once M&R fulfills the other manu's contract, the customers have trouble canceling the order and getting their money back.
Some say that M&R is taking advantage of a late delivery situation, but the question is this, if M&R goes into these customers with immediate delivery of the equipment, is there anything wrong with the customer then breaking the other manu's contract?
Then when someone says "hey, what you are saying doesn't hold water because X,Y and Z" and shoots your BS out of the water, you cry:

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The subject of this thread is, What is an acceptable amount of time to wait for a press.
Are we changing it to, What is an acceptable amount of time for a competing manu to wait for a missed press delivery date before interfering in another's contract.
Again, you personify hypocrisy at it's finest!
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