What is Tortious Interference and how does it affect Screen Printing?

The Bumper · March 17th, 2012, 10:18 AM

yep!
Just ask Jeff and Leon. They both say THEIR money is in the pocket of Robert Barnes! Guess what...I believe them!

type1teez · March 17th, 2012, 10:51 AM

Is this the same deal were pictures got posted. The whole check writing and " Birds to world" photo? So a guy walks into your place, gets 80k, then you tell him thanks and he walks out. Not trying to upset anyone, just trying to connect the dots. Thanks.

srimonogramming · March 17th, 2012, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by ALEEISS

Are you saying the law is wrong? I'm saying that what you are accusing M&R of doing is subjective and I don't agree with your assessment.

Are you saying that Printex isn't legally entitled to complete a ratified contract without the interference of M&R? They are here right, they've sold 15 presses here in the states right? M&R isn't doing anything different than Printex has done...try to sell a press to someone who wants to buy one, simple as that

Perhaps you should become a lobbyist in DC, then you can Follow the Money!

You own an RPM Revolution right? Hell Yes

Did any M&R representatives encourage you to not buy from Rick Fuqua? They encouraged me to buy an M&R

If so, was it after there was a signed contract? They called me the day I signed the contract and asked if it was final and if I was sure that I didn't want to reconsider buying an M&R. What company wouldn't at least try to sell a press to someone who wants one?

After money was paid? They kept in contact with me and in my opinion, they didn't try to "steal" the deal or try to convince me to get out of the contract with RPM. They asked me what they could have done differently and the main reasoning behind them losing the deal. I respect the hell out of that. They wanted to know where and what they did wrong, that tells me a lot.

After you took delivery? No, that would be dumb

After you used the machine for months? Again...dumb
After you took over the Bill Hood classes? WTF does that have to do with the purchase of an RPM Revolution? I am currently teaching a course as I type this, I'm responding to this ridiculous post on our break.

There is definitely a pattern of behavior, we just need to determine how many companies has M&R done this to.

M&R has been very professional towards me and our business despite us buying an automatic from someone else. They maintained a presence in our shop because they knew we would be buying equipment for future needs. We bought a dryer from them and a new manual press because I trust them and because they deserve our business.

GraphicDisorder · March 17th, 2012, 12:58 PM

Printwizard · March 17th, 2012, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Gilligan

Why is it that in every other place in the world people rally around the virtuous underdog.

Yet here they don't?

Maybe because they aren't very virtuous.

People LOVE an underdog, but they hate a fly by night crook/shyster!

Follow the money, follow the logic!

Have to admit I did for a start till I realized the underdog actually had rabies, was mad with it and had bit people several times.....

I love the underdog, the start up, the challenger, the newbie, the fresh thinker, the small guy, the injured, the battler always support them in sport etc. But they must be righteous and ethical.

pushing ink · March 17th, 2012, 05:33 PM

Tortious_Interference

A little industry background

Printex entered the USA market a few years ago and experienced difficulty on many levels.

M&R being a fierce competitor unwilling to give up market share monitors every move Printex makes.

The four founding partners of Printex-Poland early on setup Printex-USA, a legal entity in South Carolina, this entity is Printex Group, LLC (www.PrintexGroup.com)

Printex goes into the marketplace and obtains signed contracts with deposits from screen printers, those screen printers are immediately approached by M&R representatives and encouraged to walk away from their deposits and cancel their orders in exchange for better M&R prices, quicker M&R deliver, and additional M&R favors.

If You do this,than there is no problem but if M&R comes in to the picture its called Tortious Interference. Funny thing is that M&R was MORE expensive that the Printex in the begining. Now that my money is stolen and I am missing a 16 color Prism ll, M&R is actually cheaper.

Rich Hoffman NEVER contacted me to sell me a press after the Printex stealing, I contacted HIM.

pushing ink · March 17th, 2012, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by the bumper

jeff,
how long have you had your 2 printex presses that don't work properly? Also how long have you been dealing with printex -poland in resolving the 80k that robert barnes owes yoou, and what is the status from the printex representative? Any word with what they are going to do to refund your money or deliver your press that you paid for?

no word

GraphicDisorder · March 17th, 2012, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by pushing ink

Rich Hoffman NEVER contacted me to sell me a press after the Printex stealing, I contacted HIM.

In other words Barnes is yet again full of ****.

Gilligan · March 18th, 2012, 02:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Printwizard

Have to admit I did for a start till I realized the underdog actually had rabies, was mad with it and had bit people several times.....

I love the underdog, the start up, the challenger, the newbie, the fresh thinker, the small guy, the injured, the battler always support them in sport etc. But they must be righteous and ethical.

EXACTLY, everyone pulls for the underdog... when the underdog is virtuous.

californiadreamin · March 18th, 2012, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Printwizard

Have to admit I did for a start till I realized the underdog actually had rabies, was mad with it and had bit people several times.....

I love the underdog, the start up, the challenger, the newbie, the fresh thinker, the small guy, the injured, the battler always support them in sport etc. But they must be righteous and ethical.

Great Post Gilligan!

Printwizard ! I too, I too...