Whats MOST important about a Automatic Screen Print Press

Printwizard · February 16th, 2012, 07:30 PM

Bollucks. Your comeback is all about if. Underlying answer to all your posts is MnR.

I don't mind bias but not on neutral questions, then you bring up IF and MnR so it's never a neutral question or poll with you.

I'm not knocking MnR, just your biased method or purpose and to be able to preach outcomes. The question originally wasn't enough to make an educated vote on.

Price- I think MHM is great value for the price, but out of my budget. Likewise CIII is awesome but out. Diamondback is well in but I think it's junk compared to RPM.

You ask price then talk value, two totally different things.

Pointless poll

GraphicDisorder · February 16th, 2012, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Printwizard

Bollucks. Your comeback is all about if. Underlying answer to all your posts is MnR.

I don't mind bias but not on neutral questions, then you bring up IF and MnR so it's never a neutral question or poll with you.

I'm not knocking MnR, just your biased method or purpose and to be able to preach outcomes. The question originally wasn't enough to make an educated vote on.

Price- I think MHM is great value for the price, but out of my budget. Likewise CIII is awesome but out. Diamondback is well in but I think it's junk compared to RPM.

You ask price then talk value, two totally different things.

Pointless poll

If it's pointless then don't participate.

Ive been clear:

Biased...if I am biased it's for sure to companies that conduct themselves in the market place as professionals and have product that is all it is said to be.... Ya I am biased to those that do that...there's more than one.

I wasn't in love with a Diamondback either, that's why I bought a Sportsman.

californiadreamin · February 16th, 2012, 08:51 PM

Ok - Most Reliable: Precision Hydralic Oval

Most Features: MHM "S" Type,4000

Price: Best Bang for the buck 6color M&R Diamondback,Sroque12color50x70 ac heads
$60,000.00, Any Make Model "used" machine
In Reality I have sold hundreds of machines,and I must confess,although I have never
sold one, the happiest small printers, that made money swear by their Javlins.Go figure!!
The Machine I Installed most worldwide :M&R
Machines thaI think are acceptable for the USA market: (common names) M&R,MHM,TAS,
Anatol,RPM.Workkhorse group,OK-Lawson,AND Printex!AS far as the Printex, Good machines,minor issues,major problems with representation. But remember. their are families in Poland and elsewhere that depend on them for survival. A Sad Situation.

For a startup printer with little knowledge:M&R,Anatol,Workhorse group,Tas( best bets IMHO)
Larger printers in the USA: It doesnt matter, they will choose their brand and make it happen! I hope I did not leave somebody out! In the World Market There are some great
manufacturers! Lots of them! If you have a good attitude,with great service and support
even a mediocre press is good. If you have a great press with mediocre service, support
you had better know your $chitt. If you have a company with good everthing then WaLa..
My FAVORITE Press!!! PRINT TABLES

We are blessed to have so many options!

srimonogramming · February 16th, 2012, 09:10 PM

A little off subject but who cares, Winston, have you spent any time around an RPM yet?

I'd love to print a job on an MHM S-type or 4000, but I was most impressed with the CH III, specifically the world record machine with the touch screen printhead controls that Rich gave me a 30 minute tour of. If money were no object, I'd go with the CH III Special Edition slightly over the MHM 4000. I haven't been around a 4000 yet but it looks pretty sweet.

californiadreamin · February 16th, 2012, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by srimonogramming

A little off subject but who cares, Winston, have you spent any time around an RPM yet?

I'd love to print a job on an MHM S-type or 4000, but I was most impressed with the CH III, specifically the world record machine with the touch screen printhead controls that Rich gave me a 30 minute tour of. If money were no object, I'd go with the CH III Special Edition slightly over the MHM 4000. I haven't been around a 4000 yet but it looks pretty sweet.

Alan,
I have spent a little time around an RPM. Last week in fact I was close to
a servo,ac head, 10 color. I don't know all the ins and outs, like I know other
presses. I do know people that have them, and really like them. I have had dinner once, with Rick Fuqua in St Louis He wanted opinions and sales for Elexon. Thank God I passed, but I have heard nothing but good about him from customers. If I was a printer looking for a press it would be one that I would look at. The Challenger 3, what's there not to like? M&R has really stepped up there game, in the last few years, in my opinion, and it shows.
The MHM 4000, a brilliantly designed machine, the "s" type is more my style!
I love their engineering,.thought process, however not a big fan of the parts
supply chain. (I do not like ANY company having that kind of control of replacement parts, since they make or contract 90% of the parts.) Time will
tell if the Italians and the Austrians will get along? Lets hope so! Printers who
have MHM's are almost as passionate about there press as these diamondback/sportsman owners. The MHM pin system is bulletproof. As far
as Thouchscreen's fast to build/service, it sucks when they break! For textile
printers I prefer the keep it simple, toggleswitch approch, but I know you young whippersnappers like all the Gizmo's. In developing countries, keep it
simple is better in my opinion, but not as sexy! As long as you printers put money in your pocket it is good, a lot of printers who you these larger machines are now slave to the $35 cent Walmart, Addias, Nike print and think
they are going to make it up in volume( a common disease that affect's screen printers)

happy printing,
winston

tonypep · February 17th, 2012, 11:51 AM

You left out the integrity of the salesman and his/her ability to deliver as promised on time and without strings. Also the ability to back up with service and parts with immediate response and no drama.

GraphicDisorder · February 17th, 2012, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by tonypep

You left out the integrity of the salesman and his/her ability to deliver as promised on time and without strings. Also the ability to back up with service and parts with immediate response and no drama.

Should that be another poll? LOL

ruelle_smith · February 26th, 2012, 06:05 PM

I guess it should be it's reliability might as well as usability and durability. This kind of machine should produce the quality that most owners would like to produce for their respective client. Some screen print has a very lousy quality so it is important to choose the right model and brand.