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Reliability 21 87.50%
Features 0 0%
Price 3 12.50%
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Old February 16th, 2012, 03:58 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Whats MOST important about a Automatic Screen Print Press, choose 1.
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Old February 16th, 2012, 04:12 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Reliability...it can load shirts by itself, register itself, self clean, have fancy bells and whistles, and jerk you off when it's done, but none of that means shlt if it's always broken and no one will fix it.
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Old February 16th, 2012, 04:36 PM   #3 (permalink)
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This is a no brainer really, because none of the other stuff matters if it's broken down. But on the other hand, just because a press will run for 20 years straight without a breakdown doesn't mean it's the best press on earth. What if it takes an hour to set up 2 color jobs because the things that make it bullet proof are the things that make setting up jobs a nightmare? It's all about finding that middle ground.
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This is a no brainer really, because none of the other stuff matters if it's broken down. But on the other hand, just because a press will run for 20 years straight without a breakdown doesn't mean it's the best press on earth. What if it takes an hour to set up 2 color jobs because the things that make it bullet proof are the things that make setting up jobs a nightmare? It's all about finding that middle ground.
Certainly, but you can have a epically reliable press that has features, im not suggesting you cant. I am saying when you set out to buy a press, something has to be number one to you. For me it was very easy, reliability has to be number one. Features don't mean **** if the press doesn't run because they break.....

There will be more polls to dial in deeper on this. But for now....this poll will do.
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Old February 16th, 2012, 05:32 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Whats MOST important about a Automatic Screen Print Press, choose 1.
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I I had to pick only one,I would say none.
All three are critical. If one would need to elaborate,
they have no business buying one. period.
If one understands the value of all three,proceed
with your decision. does the press fufill your needs?
Do you make money with it, or is it a trophey,that
you are proud of,and makes you feel special.? when
you walk into your shop and see your press and you
understand the the true cost of your purchase, and you
have a big smile on your face and peace in your heart,
or is it oh $hitt what have I done. an important question.
make an informed decision and you wont have regrets.
I make my living with theese machines, so I lean towards
automation,however in the last few years I have had
way to manys jobs closing factories,for creditors, an to
see really good people loose it all, it makes me wonder.
have a plan and work the plan. since you like statitics, 90%
of most screen printers can not walk into their local bank
with 10% down, a business plan, an secure reasonable financing.
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Old February 16th, 2012, 07:13 PM   #6 (permalink)
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The question shows blinkered knievity in terms of attributes, definitions, circumstance etc and in turn is open to more questions than it answers.
I also feel Brandt you may as well do a poll between "do you think MnR is the best" and "I'm a moron" because you appear so biased.
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It's not really about statistics for me, its more about clearing any misconceptions.

I think most people here know that all play a factor in buying a press....however I think we'd all agree what good are print head functions if they cause the press to go down, or at least the head, and not just on one press either. I think if you asked Jeff what he'd rather have right now he'd say reliability. We know he'd say that, he just bought some equipment he can trust to work and he wont have to wait a year for it.

What's your take on waiting a year for a press? I would assume you'd agree that no print head function is ever going to make up for that lost time, right?
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The correct answer is all of the above. We ran a javelin for many years, it was über reliable more so than most presses. Tech was a quick phone call away if needed. Price is decent for a reliable press with a decent resale value. As for functions it is not loaded which is probably why price is decent and reliability and ease of repair is as it is. The press is a good choice for the right kind of customer if the above things a important.

So what I am saying is its a balance of a lot of considerations that is the most important.
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The question shows blinkered knievity in terms of attributes, definitions, circumstance etc and in turn is open to more questions than it answers.
I also feel Brandt you may as well do a poll between "do you think MnR is the best" and "I'm a moron" because you appear so biased.
Incorrect, this poll has nothing to do with M&R (don't try to make it about that, we can get into brands in another poll if you like). For me there are actually more than one brand id buy in this market place. But those are all companies that don't take several months to deliver and the presses don't have a laundry list of bugs.

Biased...if I am biased it's for sure to companies that conduct themselves in the market place as professionals and have product that is all it is said to be.... Ya I am biased to those that do that...there's more than one.
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The correct answer is all of the above. We ran a javelin for many years, it was über reliable more so than most presses. Tech was a quick phone call away if needed. Price is decent for a reliable press with a decent resale value. As for functions it is not loaded which is probably why price is decent and reliability and ease of repair is as it is. The press is a good choice for the right kind of customer if the above things a important.

So what I am saying is its a balance of a lot of considerations that is the most important.
Of course you weigh them all when choosing a press. But are you suggesting one doesn't have any more of a edge than another.

Let's look at it like a video game, 10 bars you have to divide between each attribute, you have 3 attributes on this press your building. If all are equal to you, which one gets the extra bar.

Remember you have to use all.

You guys are over thinking this. Nobody is saying you cant have a mixture of all of these. Just simply select which one would be the MOST important to you. Doesn't mean other factors aren't almost as important...
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