You guys might be right!! Is it time to check out the Mustang?

pushing ink · March 30th, 2012, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by californiadreamin

Hi Printwizard!
I am very happy for your new venture! You will do just fine..
2M makes a nice machine, and we all have to make the best
choices, that will hopefuly keep us in business. 2M will get a good
dealer/agent with Printwizard! IMHO I would name the said machine
"Printwizard" as the name "mustang" will only get you "hung like a horse"
at best! Would 2M make the same choice today, with what they now
know? That will be their legacy! Many think monies taken as deposits
were from 2M's competitor Printex. Rob Peter To Pay Paul! I also understand
Loyalty in relationships. I am a big fan of Loyalty! However if a relationship
becomes "TOXIC", One with an of ounce integrety, must then ask themselves
if the relationship is really worth it! I am sure 2M has or will cross this road!
I hope they make the correct decision! The videos will only hurt 2M faster!
It reminds me of printers who are printing at cost, but are going to make it up
in volume!
winston

Hey Winston do you have m2's phone number in illinois?

californiadreamin · March 30th, 2012, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by pushing ink

Hey Winston do you have m2's phone number in illinois?

Hey Jeff (Peter) I will get 2M's (Paul) number for you!
It will take me a few phone calls.

Printwizard · March 30th, 2012, 12:08 PM

Maybe it may inspire Rick to be less complacent and he may reinvigorate himself watching the best and worst of Roberts efforts and use what he learns.
Ultimately it's up to 2M, how they can leverage the most out. It's a fine machine that deserves market penetration. They have been going too long to fall, and long enough to know how to do things right IMO. I know they think highly of Rich and MnR and don't condone the trash talk.
I wouldn't right their machines off because of Robert. There are options to buy safely around him, and remember nobody is knocking the machines, so much as the agent.
Must go, typings terrible and I'm nearl finished my fifth eighteen hour day in a row, the age is clicking in and I feel more shattered and can't think like when I was in my twenties...

GraphicDisorder · March 30th, 2012, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Printwizard

I wouldn't right their machines off because of Robert. There are options to buy safely around him, and remember nobody is knocking the machines, so much as the agent.

But don't you have to second guess a manufacture that chooses him as the agent? When I buy a car, I don't talk to the manufacture, I talk to a agent, and if he sucks I walk. In fact if he sucks enough I don't buy that brand.

If 2M doesn't think that wont translate into their brand, they are kidding themselves. You can't just fault a agent, someone put him there, I question that person. Thus I question the company. That's how it works.

It will be easy for Robert to claim it's a flop if it flops because it's a "new" brand and no prior sales to compare with really.

What would be interesting is to see Robert run a existing company's sales with years of prior sales numbers and see how the graph looks as it slides down...

inkman996 · March 30th, 2012, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by pushing ink

Are you talking abouth the head falling from the up position down? The head rest pin and plate is CHEAP at best.

Yes that is what I am talking about, currently three out of six heads do not engage, yesterday one decided to let go right after I lifted it and the corner of the hanger nearly took my head with it. Its a poor poor design and quite dangersous, the whole hanger has to weigh atleast 30lbs maybe more.

tonypep · March 30th, 2012, 01:20 PM

Wait, are you saying this may be one of those killing machines? Seriously what will you do to address this? Seems like Brian is your only option.

GraphicDisorder · March 30th, 2012, 01:26 PM

LOL. Irony in all of this is so funny!

Gilligan · March 30th, 2012, 02:34 PM

Problem solved!

pushing ink · March 30th, 2012, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by inkman996

Yes that is what I am talking about, currently three out of six heads do not engage, yesterday one decided to let go right after I lifted it and the corner of the hanger nearly took my head with it. Its a poor poor design and quite dangersous, the whole hanger has to weigh atleast 30lbs maybe more.

The M&R's is built like a TANK!

Binkspot · March 30th, 2012, 03:03 PM

Learned that lesson long ago.
1. Leave them down
2. Back the pin out, place a rubber strip on top of the print head and lye them all the way back.
3. Be luckey you don't have a Prism, if the heads flop all the way back it knocks the regulator knob off