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Old September 10th, 2012, 09:34 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Want to talk about an OMFG! Look at the fist pic below, I removed the cover over the bulbs and the fist thing I see is black spots on the heat shields. Yep that is insulation burning off the wires feeding the cooling fans. I dont know the amps running to those fans but damn if an accident is not inevitable!


Pic 2 below
As you can see I traced the wires and marked each SSR to which zone it is. Surprisingly it is a ten bulb flash so the middle (zone2) is actually wired for four bulbs and the other two for 3 each.


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I first purposely scorched a shirt so the pattern can be seen notice the last third of the shirt is where the major scorching starts. Also please keep in mind I have the flash shimmed 1/4" higher at the end in an attempt to control this.


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First I swapped the control wires from zone 3 to zone 2 SSR respectively. Re scorched a shirt as you can see identical pattern.


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I put the control wires back respectively, I then switched the output wires to the bulbs again with zone 2 and zone 3, I would have preferred zone 1 and zone 3 but the wires were to short. Anyways looking at the pic below I think tho it is not easy to discern that there is a difference, you guys can chime in and let me know.


To sum up it may appear to be a funky SSR ( I hope) The controller is definetaly ruled out I would say.

As for the wires burning up under the hood what the hell am I going to do about that? Brian what is the specs on these wires as in voltage and amps, is it dangerous?

Should I look for high temp wire to replace with or is there a high temp insulation I can wrap them in?
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Old September 10th, 2012, 09:35 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Never mind Brian i will just reroute wires to the outside should be easy enough.
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Old September 10th, 2012, 09:45 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Never mind Brian i will just reroute wires to the outside should be easy enough.
1 amp fuse protecting the fans

How high is the flash from pallet. I have the bulbs 2-1/2" above the pallets. Is yours to close?
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Old September 10th, 2012, 09:56 AM   #4 (permalink)
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1 amp fuse protecting the fans

How high is the flash from pallet. I have the bulbs 2-1/2" above the pallets. Is yours to close?
2" at the head 2.25" at the tail, I could but it up some.
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Old September 10th, 2012, 10:32 AM   #5 (permalink)
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...and there you have "Best Price".


LOL
244 and pushing ink like this.
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Old September 10th, 2012, 10:35 AM   #6 (permalink)
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...and there you have "Best Price".


LOL
And there you go $hitting on this man's thread where he is trying to diagnose a problem.

Please don't bother replying on this thread I won't take it any lower. You can PM me if you want to discuss it.
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1 amp fuse protecting the fans

How high is the flash from pallet. I have the bulbs 2-1/2" above the pallets. Is yours to close?
How many volts?
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220vac. Just a little bite.
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Damn 220 at 1amp is a hell of a bite lol. Does that happen on all their flashes or am I just unlucky?
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Question ... can you post a pic of the burnt part of the black heat shielding ... I want to see if it melted beyond the sleeve ... below the black heat sleeve are high temperature wires <--- curious to see if the shield of those melted as well ???

Also ... we may have nothing more than a spotty SSR -but- we recently sent RockChick a bunch of new fans for one of her flashes ... they were a grainger swap out
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