M&R Guantlet

HMAPRO

This seems like the new way of the industry forums here on digitsmith, no moderation if the majority think you are wrong then you suffer the tyranny of the moderator and his flock.

Something doesn't make sense here, why is it that when M&R reps gets involved with these customers the Printex presses on order never get delivered, could there be something going on beyond the story being told on the internet?

inkman996

Lets talk about bad busings.

Show us some proof of a gaunlet with a bad bushing well actually show us a pattern of bad bushings on one of the industries most loved press's

Then after you some how prove this insinuation is true lets talk about that Falcon you sold down in GA that had a bad bushing on install and how you refused to help the customer because Workhorse bought your failing company out.

HMAPRO

Are you doing an ad for M&R like Brandt? or are you just going to stick to signing court papers on behalf of M&R?

The Winston has already posted that there is nothing to discuss and we all know he designed the Falcon so keep moving, nothing to see.

However, let's do an easy one first, how many 12 color Sportsman have had problems with the shaft/bushing? Then let's do 10 color Sportsman? Then 8 color Sportman? If there are none, then The Winston will tell us to keep walking (again)

Gilligan

Burden of proof is on YOU!

What press haven't you installed that has had problems after the install?

Where is Jeff's press?

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inkman996

Talk about completely ignoring the question lol.

Let's get the paper signing out of the way again.

Yes I signed an affidavit telling the truth to the best of my recollection. Why? Well simple I have no reason to lie nor cover for Robert Barnes and his law suit. I know if I refused I could tho quite unlikely be subpheoned and have to swear to the best of my recollection in a court room.

The affidavit was simple, I stated yes I seen Robert Barnes use a laptop in our business, was it the only one on site, yes it was the only one I seen, tho it does not mean there was not another around but yes I did see Robert sitting at it using it, oh and most importantly yes absolutely yes the said laptop was being used for printex business, how do I know? Well Sara printed invoices right there on the spot for us from the said laptop that Robert Barnes is trying to claim is a personal computer of Sara's.

So Robert where is the proof of a market being flooded with gauntlets and bad bushing?

Binkspot

If the machines in question are and that is a big if it would be due to lack of matainance not poor design or inferior materials. A little grease goes a long way. Must not have been that bad of a design, doesn't the Falcon have the same style bushings and tapered roller bearing as the Gauntlet. I have seen one or two with worn bearings but one had over 6m imprints and I knew nothing about the history of the machines. Seen alot more that were fine. I know of at least one Falcon (RWB era) with ****ed up bearings right out of the box and nothing was done about it. Just saying.

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Gilligan

Those falcons had those "death traps" of safety cables... except they cut corners and got it all wrong.

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Binkspot

Just wait until the SO cord used to wire the old Falcons starts to crumble, should have used a better cable type. Just saying.

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The Bumper

GOT COOKIE SHEETS??? hahah

Binkspot

Again, worn bearing is a moot point. I could easily take the best built machine and wear it out in a week no problem.

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