Robert Barnes from Spider Machines - Modern Technology -vs- Old Conventional Designs

Printwizard · September 16th, 2012, 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by eetherman

Whatever it is I smell B/S like everyone trying to make a buck. I give mad props to a company like M&R for staying afloat through the last 4 years. Even if half of their patents are bought and the other half are so vague, that I'm surprised they hold up in court.

Whats funny is them buying an Elexon patent for the digital stroke length that Rick Fuqua invented, then licensing it back to Rick which is then sold on the RPM as an amazing feature, and although mnr may own it they still put flags / prox sensors on their machines. I bet if you offered this as a feature on the sportsman to buyers they would jump at this option............

I think its absurd and obscene owning technology but not using it yourself, just depriving the rest of an industry of it. Imagine if Alcatel bought 3G/4G patents from Samsung and then barred the communications industry from using it.
It wouldnt happen.

eetherman · September 16th, 2012, 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Printwizard

Whats funny is them buying an Elexon patent for the digital stroke length that Rick Fuqua invented, then licensing it back to Rick which is then sold on the RPM as an amazing feature, and although mnr may own it they still put flags / prox sensors on their machines. I bet if you offered this as a feature on the sportsman to buyers they would jump at this option............

I think its absurd and obscene owning technology but not using it yourself, just depriving the rest of an industry of it. Imagine if Alcatel bought 3G/4G patents from Samsung and then barred the communications industry from using it.
It wouldnt happen.

I believe M&R did try to use the technology but found it not cost effective for the market. Gauntlet X or something like that, correct me if I'm wrong.

eetherman · September 16th, 2012, 01:40 AM

Pretty sure they also tried to steal the flashback idea from TUF back in the day but were unsuccessful, once again I could be wrong. I'm a firm believer in once you try to steal a patented feature you should never be able to create another. If you gonna play the game than play it buy the rules. The patent game is holding this industry back that is for sure.

Printwizard · September 16th, 2012, 02:00 AM

Its revolver that gets me. People printed by hand in revolver mode before equipement was ever automated.

inkman996 · September 16th, 2012, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by eetherman

Pretty sure they also tried to steal the flashback idea from TUF back in the day but were unsuccessful, once again I could be wrong. I'm a firm believer in once you try to steal a patented feature you should never be able to create another. If you gonna play the game than play it buy the rules. The patent game is holding this industry back that is for sure.

That was anatol

Prosperi-Tees · September 16th, 2012, 01:02 PM

Lawson has the v squeegee, isn't that patented by Tuf?

GraphicDisorder · September 16th, 2012, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Printwizard

Its revolver that gets me. People printed by hand in revolver mode before equipement was ever automated.

Did each person hit a software setting on their main control panel to get their body's to run in revolver mode? Was it called revolver mode? Was it patented? Is a manual press and a automated machine considered the same thing since one operates by hand and one is by motors/air/software?

Sorry just stating the obvious differences.

eetherman · September 16th, 2012, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by inkman996

That was anatol

I'm pretty sure they copied one in the early 90's before Anitol was even around. I'm sure there is someone out there that can enlighten.

Gilligan · September 16th, 2012, 05:02 PM

There was, but because he can't control himself he got banned and his post were removed.

squeegee · September 16th, 2012, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by inkman996

That was anatol

Actually I think MNR actually did build a flashback knockoff, not sure what became of it, but frankly the flashback is a bandaid approach anyway.