Robert Barnes from Spider Machines - Modern Technology -vs- Old Conventional Designs

screenprintguy · September 12th, 2012, 10:10 AM

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Printwizard · September 12th, 2012, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Gilligan

Hmm, that math isn't adding up.

If they only sold as many as Barnes sold then it would take 250 M&R sales agents to put out the numbers that M&R does.

As much as Barnes would like to try and say that is how it is all done I think it's another smoke and mirrors routine.

Yes Gilligan. I think there are easily this many reps. Remembering they have their own, and then some of the rep companies and ink suppliers who sell them can have from 3-4 up to a dozen reps each, start adding all the different countries mnr is sold to and times that out and its like 2 sales agents a country, and obviously maybe some may not be represented well or by maybe one service tech or something, but other larger countries would have big networks at several levels directly and indirectly.

That would mean selling a couple of presses each.

Sure in NZ there may only be one person taking the order, but the agent has like five people pushing the product, on the road as part of their agencies / mix. And we are as far away as you can get from either of their plant in a population of 4 million, so yes, am sure my math is ballpark close.

screenprintguy · September 12th, 2012, 01:05 PM

This is a pretty stand up video, it does show love for the printer, not just the sale =)

Northland · September 13th, 2012, 05:58 PM

Well.... if the point is to post boring, repetitive bull****t... how 'bout this

eetherman · September 15th, 2012, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by screenprintguy

This is a pretty stand up video, it does show love for the printer, not just the sale =)

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Highly doubt the last part of this video!! Like M&R wouldn't sell a press to someone if they were not ready for one B/S. Pretty sure there was a press on here last month with little to no impressions that someone obviously didn't really need. Holy crap is this place turning into a Sh*t Show.

Gilligan · September 15th, 2012, 11:13 PM

They needed to upsize was my understanding.

That video didn't say they make sure that you get the exact match for your business. He said if it doesn't seem like you are READY for an auto.

Still he wasn't coming look at my prints and was ready to sell me a press. *shrug*

244 · September 15th, 2012, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by eetherman

Highly doubt the last part of this video!! Like M&R wouldn't sell a press to someone if they were not ready for one B/S. Pretty sure there was a press on here last month with little to no impressions that someone obviously didn't really need. Holy crap is this place turning into a Sh*t Show.

The one you reference was due to a divorce from what I understand. The person I was referring to is real and active on some of these forums whether you think it is bs or not.

eetherman · September 15th, 2012, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by 244

The one you reference was due to a divorce from what I understand. The person I was referring to is real and active on some of these forums whether you think it is bs or not.

So if someone buys a machine, from say a trade show and later you find out they have no idea how to print then what do you do? I know I'm taking this way out of context but hay what the hell, seems to happen every day on this forum. Let me remind you Rich that you liked a post that said, you hoped my business fails and we are up 700% from this time last year. Not a hater of your equipment but I bought and RPM because of your statement and haven't looked back.

Printwizard · September 15th, 2012, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by 244

The one you reference was due to a divorce from what I understand. The person I was referring to is real and active on some of these forums whether you think it is bs or not.

Getting Divorced from MnR. I recall 244 popping on and saying something like it was too small to sell basically not that greater a spec machine, trying to step on the parade, ruin the sale and try selling someone a new and bigger machine instead.......

eetherman · September 16th, 2012, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Printwizard

Getting Divorced from MnR. I recall 244 popping on and saying something like it was too small to sell basically not that greater a spec machine, trying to step on the parade, ruin the sale and try selling someone a new and bigger machine instead.......

Whatever it is I smell B/S like everyone trying to make a buck. I give mad props to a company like M&R for staying afloat through the last 4 years. Even if half of their patents are bought and the other half are so vague, that I'm surprised they hold up in court.