Robert Barnes from Spider Machines - Modern Technology -vs- Old Conventional Designs

squeegee · September 16th, 2012, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Prosperi-Tees

Lawson has the v squeegee, isn't that patented by Tuf?

Negative, MHM was using V-squeegees long before TUF was even conceived.

squeegee · September 16th, 2012, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Printwizard

Its revolver that gets me. People printed by hand in revolver mode before equipement was ever automated.

MHM has the multi print program aka twister, essentially the same as revolver. And in that light has data saving capabilities, not sure why I've never heard of a patent case, maybe because they are not US based...or maybe there's another reason...do your own research...

Printwizard · September 16th, 2012, 07:07 PM

Like TAS has their own version too....

Gilligan · September 16th, 2012, 07:07 PM

And Revolver is not a bandaid?!

Gilligan · September 16th, 2012, 07:54 PM

That was a question not a statement. Not sure if that was understood.

squeegee · September 16th, 2012, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Gilligan

And Revolver is not a bandaid?!

Yes, it is a big azz bandaid, IMO.

eetherman · September 16th, 2012, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by squeegee

Actually I think MNR actually did build a flashback knockoff, not sure what became of it, but frankly the flashback is a bandaid approach anyway.

I personally feel the Flashback is a great option. We use ours for many jobs 12-48 pieces. Set up is fast and printing is much faster than printing manually and the shirts are completed in one rotation. We hardly ever print manually and we can pretty much accomplish everything with 1 white screen and 1 flash, it works great for us. If we had to burn an additional white screen, not only would we burn through 20-30 more screens a week we would also have to run a second flash it all adds up.

Printwizard · September 16th, 2012, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by eetherman

I personally feel the Flashback is a great option. We use ours for many jobs 12-48 pieces. Set up is fast and printing is much faster than printing manually and the shirts are completed in one rotation. We hardly ever print manually and we can pretty much accomplish everything with 1 white screen and 1 flash, it works great for us. If we had to burn an additional white screen, not only would we burn through 20-30 more screens a week we would also have to run a second flash it all adds up.

I cant really see the point of step back to flash. I figure in terms of time it must be just as quick to go around twice? I really am curious as to the savings or machine wear or why. The only thing i can think is maybe a better load balance on your drier. but in that case you could also stop loading and go and stack the previous set while it goes round again.? Sorry again my ignorance in seeing what it achieves. All i can think is of use if you have a narrow, small, short, slow drier. And in which case you would then not cope as well with anything faster anyway?

Binkspot · September 16th, 2012, 10:16 PM

Flashback not step back. Print and flash on same head. Flash is on a shuttle, the head prints then the flash slides over the pallet and flashes then repeat. We had one on our Olympian. Step back prints on one, flash on two then back to print on one. The Ptex is supposed to do it but no one has been able to show me how, not that we would use it. I aggree two screens or around twice would be quicker then step back.

Just saying

Prosperi-Tees · September 16th, 2012, 11:14 PM

I would have loved to have a revolver or a 2nd flash on the last job i did. I can see how some jobs benefit. I was hoping to get away with one flash but couldn't do it. It was a white underbase, flash, big splotch of light blue, flash and then silver shimmer. That sucked going around twice and turning on and off print heads and loading and unloading, way to much for me to keep up with without having done it before.