Robert Barnes from Spider Machines - Modern Technology -vs- Old Conventional Designs

ScreenShip

Mike ... keep in mind the ideal Mustang buyer is the shop that bought into the M&R propaganda -and- already has one or two M&R presses ... so having an FPU has a tremendous benefit in reducing their production times on the M&R stuff as well

BUT ... I will start another thread about creating classes of machines

Printwizard

Re the MHM and re-zero-ing, some machines that have digital / electronic registration movement can easily be reset back to zero during the washup simply by doing (washup.reset) on control panel. Cant honestly say anything about MHM as I simply dont know but I would imagine it would be natural to be able to set machine zero and be able to reset to that point. Existing technology.

ScreenShip

The MHM 4000 with auto-reg does a nice job zero'ing with the motors -but- zero'ing any manual system without digital readout is never going to be easy unless they are pinned

Gilligan

LOL.... Barnes, you really are an idiot.

I know what "zero'ing" means. Even in my feeble, never having seen an MHM mind I can dream up a process to do this. Possibly mark a ZERO point on a Pallet... then you just dial in zero like if you were registering a job.

Everyone in this industry can register a job.

For that matter, technically next time you put a job on and say head 4 had to previously be adjusted... well then guess what head needs to be adjusted "back to zero" for the job to line up?

So you just go over to head 4 and line it up like you would if it was out of whack and Poof, you are back at ZERO and can go on printing all the rest of the days jobs.

Now, if you feel like that won't happen then this press operator you are talking about has more problems than you do and should probably do as you should and look for a new career.

Stop making mountains out of mole hills with the MHM zero'ing thing. It's simply not that complicated and just the time saved by not having to go around the entire press using a jig to snap frames in will be enough time to "zero" in that one job that some how the user screwed up on the FPU.

Which it could be argued that the same job would still take even longer on your press because the MHM's micros don't have to be locked down... so the time it takes to lock down your micros you could probably reregister back to "ZERO" on the next job and never miss a beat. Which means the time you waste going around with your pallet jig to set up all the jobs every day... well, it's just that... a waste!

MHM, lock and load!! You could have a monkey load and "register" a job on an MHM with about 2 mins of training. The same can't be said with your press Jig.

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ScreenShip

Gilligan ... you are 100% right ... I stand corrected ... we will mark this day down as a day where RWB decides to not reply and let you win !!!

Note: once we habe the FPU and Press JIG we will make a video for you to compare and we can continue this then ... ok?

Gilligan

Note, that was a question, so I'm responding.

I want to see a video of a PRO MHM guy doing the comparison (at least on the MHM machine). Not your ho hum drone blasé way that you did the CHIII review. I want to see someone with the same "passion" you have for the new way demonstrating how it compares on the MHM.

TRUE apples to apples.

Also let that PRO MHM guy say how many times he actually has to micro register the screen once on press. I mean, what is the point of any of this if it only happens 1% of the time.

You are constantly the guy saying that we need to push screen printing forwards, I'm just trying to do my part. MHM has done that... did it over 15 years ago and is continuing on and not looking back.

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ScreenShip

MHM is continuing on and not looking back ... I pizzed myself on that one LOL

MHM no longer has Herbert ... don't count on any innovative ideas coming out of MHM any time soon ... thanks for the entertainment though hahahahahaha

Gilligan we will see you at the New Orleans install where to you can give everyone your Mustang opinion ... we will discuss it then (will you need gas money like last time) LOL

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Says a guy that bills for travel.....

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Gilligan

Wow... really?

Says the guy that I had to bring back to his hotel!

The only thing I let you pay for was dinner at the big wAWFUL House (big spender). You cried about that the whole time as well.

Ted bought us dinner the next night.

BUT since you are offering, I'll take a couple of bills to cover expenses and lost time at work if you REALLY want me there.

Unless you install during early December as I will already be down there for work.

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vicb

When is the New Orleans install?
I might check it out. Gilligan can ride with me.