Sporty-Tex Should we give it a go?

GraphicDisorder · March 26th, 2012, 10:56 PM

If you need a second press, the cost of it shouldn't be as critical as you are describing. Are you sure need is the correct word? Either way best wishes.

pushing ink · March 26th, 2012, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by eetherman

The jav is staying. Just need a 2nd press. Why are you getting rid of the printex?

I do not like the guy who sold it to me, so I decide to buy all M&R!
I print thousands of shirts on both Printex's every week. I have Brian for tech support, he is the only one knows the presses inside and out and will be 100% honest.

californiadreamin · March 26th, 2012, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by pushing ink

I do not like the guy who sold it to me, so I decide to buy all M&R!
I print thousands of shirts on both Printex's every week. I have Brian for tech support, he is the only one knows the presses inside and out and will be 100% honest.

Classy Reply!

jmd · March 26th, 2012, 11:28 PM

So you have read about this man's reputation 1,000 times...hummmm I guess nothing anyone says here is going to make a difference than. You put your company and reputation at risk. RWB got you hook line and sinker, just like he did to Jeff when everyone was telling him to stay clear. There are so many reasons why this is a bad idea, but sometimes people have to learn the hard way. All I can say is if business is good and you want to keep it going, you can NOT afford to go with an unproven press and mfg. Have you talked to other mfgs or only Mr. Barnes at this point.

eetherman · March 27th, 2012, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by GraphicDisorder

If you need a second press, the cost of it shouldn't be as critical as you are describing. Are you sure need is the correct word? Either way best wishes.

I'm pretty sure I know what's needed for my business. Unfortunately things like wife, kids, house and existing bills will not allow a new 10/12. Sure I would love to have a new machine but highley unlikely $65 for new or spend around $25 to $30 for a used. Or possibly get a new one that needs to be proven in the market, these are my options. I'm not made of money and the last thing I would buy is a new machine is if I didn't need it. I'm running 2000 prints in a day on a jav while a guy stands on the chameleon printing another 100 pieces on darks. This is happening more and more, a 2nd shift would for sure kill my brain, and I'm over 60hr weeks, like I said wife and kids.

eetherman · March 27th, 2012, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by jmd

So you have read about this man's reputation 1,000 times...hummmm I guess nothing anyone says here is going to make a difference than. You put your company and reputation at risk. RWB got you hook line and sinker, just like he did to Jeff when everyone was telling him to stay clear. There are so many reasons why this is a bad idea, but sometimes people have to learn the hard way. All I can say is if business is good and you want to keep it going, you can NOT afford to go with an unproven press and mfg. Have you talked to other mfgs or only Mr. Barnes at this point.

A 1000 times from the same 5 people, the hard way is handing over money before the machine is in place. Its like not taking a deposit on a 1000 piece order, common sense.

Binkspot · March 27th, 2012, 05:46 AM

If you are in the middle of a big 7 color run and the Sporty-Tex goes down how will you finish it, how long to get support, how long for parts, are you mechanically inclined enough to fix the press yourself?

244 · March 27th, 2012, 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by californiadreamin

If you have read all that has been written about all the happy customers
out there in printland, and you EVEN have the thought, about this purchase,
then by all means, YOU are the perfect candidate! Congratulations! I Really
Mean It!.I thought I have seen it all !!!!!!
Is that positive enough?

I totally agree with Winston on this one. You sound like the perfect candidate. Great thought process!

Binkspot · March 27th, 2012, 06:22 AM

What happen if Robert bails on the project and there is zero support.

No offense but don't you think a beta machine would go in a much larger shop where they could run thousands of prints a day on it, day in day out. A mfg would want production data as quickly as possiable. Some shops put 30k on a press a week why would you want to test a machine in a shop doing that in a quarter. Sounds a little fishy to me?

There may be few on here telling the story but there are many more. There are forums he has killed and other that go to great lengths to keep him out.

Like Graphic said if your production requires a larger press the cost should not be a factor.

CounterPoint · March 27th, 2012, 06:43 AM

Let's analyse the market first, then analyse the who, what, where

First, the Blue Team has had the luxury of what, almost 90% of the market for years

Second, If China can offer only an average quality machine with features not available on Big Blue and at a fraction of the price (huge benefits to the screen printing community), then as long as China offers proper support (which they absolutely have proved at the Beta site in Miami) there will always be buyers for China presses

Third, if China offers "no credit check" direct financing it really becomes a game of how quickly can China sign everyone up

Finally, now that the Big Blue Lawsuit is over and everyone has had their day in court, we as an industry should be ready for some change in the status quo