Sporty-Tex Should we give it a go?

pwalsh · March 27th, 2012, 07:53 AM

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The biggest question the reader here should be asking is, what are the behind the scenes motivations of these posters?

Who is 244 and why does he care so much?
Who is Pwalsh and why does he care so much?
Who is GraphicDisorder and why does he care so much?
Who is PushingInk and why does he care so much?
Who is californiadreamin and why does he care so much?
Who is inkman996 and why does he care so much?
Who is jmd and why does he care so much?

Then, we have all seen the numerous aliases that are here just to bash like "The Bumper" who are these people and what are their behind the scenes motives?

Robert: I'm not behind the scenes, and my identity is no secret. I am a 26 year veteran of the screen printing industry that has worked with just two companies during that time. TAS a manufacturer of automatic screen-printing presses and currently with the SourceOne Distribution division of the Nazdar Company. I gladly offer my knowledge and experience to people in this industry to help them make informed equipment buying decisions.

That’s my story and it’s one that I’m proud to tell it.

GraphicDisorder · March 27th, 2012, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by CounterPoint

The biggest question the reader here should be asking is, what are the behind the scenes motivations of these posters?

Interestingly there is nothing behind the scenes as motivation. Unlike you we are all not motivated by ripping off someone or financial gain on this. It's about write and wrong. You have done many people wrong and you can't deny it.

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Who is 244 and why does he care so much?

The most respected industry professional in the screen printing world. Let's call him YOUR Jesus.

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Who is Pwalsh and why does he care so much?

Runs one of the most successful businesses in the screen printing industry. A person that is a industry professional and cares about people in general EVEN when they aren't buying his products.

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Who is GraphicDisorder and why does he care so much?

A person who reached out to you to try to help you get your metal issues under control, even though your true colors were apparent very early on (before even speaking with you). I don't like to see people buy machines and not get them, or not get what was advertised. You continue to rip people off in those respects. Fact.

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Who is PushingInk and why does he care so much?

He's your own customer, imagine that. You have taken payment for 3 machines of his around a year ago and he still only has 2. Reader should know that.

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Who is californiadreamin and why does he care so much?

Industry professional that cares about people in general and doesn't want to see people get ripped off MORE by you.

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Who is inkman996 and why does he care so much?

Another one of your own customers. You delivered a press with surprise shipping costs, not as pictured in adverts, does not print the print area as advertised, and a host of other issues that are not only dangerous but indicate sloppy manufacturing and backed up with even worse support.

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Who is jmd and why does he care so much?

JMD has been watching you close for years, he also doesn't like to see people ripped off.

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Then, we have all seen the numerous aliases that are here just to bash like "The Bumper" who are these people and what are their behind the scenes motives?

You have more aliases than anyone, often creating one or more a day, is the interesting part. So maybe you should watch where you throw stones from that glass house in that respect.

244 · March 27th, 2012, 07:55 AM

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First, let's break it down into smaller pieces so we can attempt to swallow this Blue Stench

First, the gear is not so "unproven" (insert Miami info here)
Second, the mfg is not untested in the least, here is a pic of just one of their facilities

That is a great story Peter is telling, however there are two critical pieces of this puzzle that are conveniently missing:

1- the MFG involved in Peter's story is Printex and just like you are witnessing here on DigitSmith, what role has the Blue Crew played in undermining Printex and it's abilities to regain traction in the USA market

2- China has watched very carefully the mistakes that Printex made and will not follow the Printex path

Laughable (see earlier post on model sizes) the SPIN is making me dizzier

Once again, as a reader ask yourself why are these dozen or so posters so interested in undermining new competition into the marketplace?

^^^ FOLLOW THE MONEY ^^^

Yes you should follow the money. Follow Leon's money! Follow Jeff Saxby's money! Follow Inkman's money!Follow Binkspots money on his flash! Follow every other customer who bought a machine from Printex/Barnes! Pretty damn clear where their money went! Yes,FOLLOW THE MONEY!

CounterPoint · March 27th, 2012, 07:56 AM

More stinky Blue Speech

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Two points/questions:

1. Is it just me or do others think its strange the people who are vocal on these matters all keep their screen name and never hide behind aliases. To me this says a lot. Where as the one in question changes his daily sometimes several times a day. Red flag in my book.

These user names somehow (albeit magically) keep getting banned by DigitSmith, almost like when RWB gets thrown out of trade shows for eating a $5 dollar hotdog <--- Red flag in my book did you say?

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2. How in gods name are the discussions going on here at Digitsmith or any law suits holding back the industry in any way.

you and the other Blue Crew are making every effort to trash talk every brand that RWB is associated with, for god's sake Alan802 is trash talking the Mustang (the newer version of his RPM Revolution) it is so obvious to the readers here what is going on behind the scenes, do you not look in the mirror when you shave?

CounterPoint · March 27th, 2012, 07:59 AM

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You are pretty sure? I don't bother posting much anymore because most of what I read is the same old dribble, but if you are only pretty sure, it sounds to me like you need to have more financial facts about your business in order to make an informed decision.

I only know what you say, but if you are working so many hours, an unproven machine that could break down or have problems would be a nightmare. It's definitely a risky move if you ask me. Personally I wouldn't risk my business on any beta macine unless I could absolutely live without the extra needed floor space and production capacity. I would want to be prepared for the worst case scenario.

squeegee, you make some great points, and the Blue Crew use to say the same thing to the Progressive Falcon buyers for almost a decade

Thousands and Thousands of operators worldwide running Progressive Falcon machine literally every second of every day someone is loading a t-shirt on a Falcon

244 · March 27th, 2012, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by CounterPoint

More stinky Blue Speech

These user names somehow (albeit magically) keep getting banned by DigitSmith, almost like when RWB gets thrown out of trade shows for eating a $5 dollar hotdog <--- Red flag in my book did you say?

you and the other Blue Crew are making every effort to trash talk every brand that RWB is associated with, for god's sake Alan802 is trash talking the Mustang (the newer version of his RPM Revolution) it is so obvious to the readers here what is going on behind the scenes, do you not look in the mirror when you shave?

Where is all these people's hard earned money Barnes? Won't answer will you. You have scammed a lot of people out of their money and I am sure there will be more. The ones who do not do their homework will just have to fail I guess. Go get em!

GraphicDisorder · March 27th, 2012, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by CounterPoint

More stinky Blue Speech

These user names somehow (albeit magically) keep getting banned by DigitSmith, almost like when RWB gets thrown out of trade shows for eating a $5 dollar hotdog <--- Red flag in my book did you say?

You were thrown out because of your actions, it just happened to be while you were eating a hot dog, but it was because of your filming and such previous to that. The industry doesn't want you, that was a good indication when you are removed from a industry TRADE show that they don't want you in the TRADE. I go to trade shows that dwarf those types of shows, and I have never seen ANYONE thrown out. Of course that industry doesn't have people acting like you.

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you and the other Blue Crew are making every effort to trash talk every brand that RWB is associated with, for god's sake Alan802 is trash talking the Mustang (the newer version of his RPM Revolution) it is so obvious to the readers here what is going on behind the scenes, do you not look in the mirror when you shave?

Binkspot is another one of your customers interestingly. He runs (well works on), a Playtex a lot. Didn't his flash about burn to the ground the other day. Go Playtex. RWB endorsed it. What does that say about your knowledge of printing equipment?

CounterPoint · March 27th, 2012, 08:06 AM

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People who care about the industry and not about filling their pockets with unsuspecting printers money would be about right!

Really? Do you fill your pockets with "unsuspecting printers money"

Why is it that purchase prices for identical sku numbers fluctuate so much from buyer to buyer, could the argument be made that "unsuspecting printers" that don't get quotes from other MFGs are paying too much

BTW, did you file your Federal Appeal yet in IL or are you coming to SC (hear the climate down in the south for Yankees can be tough to get use to)

CounterPoint · March 27th, 2012, 08:10 AM

Unpaid spokesman, got it

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Start with you are Robert Barnes...

They earned it, deserve it, and do exactly as they say. Something you could learn a lot from. With as obsessed as you are about M&R and others you would think you'd take better notes on how to offer that type of service support.

Who sets out to be average? Average machine, what? LOL. So by your own admission, average machine. Got ya. Backed by you right? Using your own track record with your Playtex support, you are going to offer POOR service and support to a average machine. This already sounds bad...... If anyone decides to sign up for that, no sympathy from me. The man is telling you it's a mess before it even ships. Imagine the car commercials if they were based on some bs like you push. I can hear the commercials already, "come on down folks and buy a average car that we will have to service and support but we are often not here to do that since we constantly have to play on the internet to find suckers to buy these things."

People will all line up and "buy" them and never pay the bill. Sounds good. Maybe put them out front and offer rides on it for $1 a rotation. 2 rotations if it will run that long.

eetherman · March 27th, 2012, 08:13 AM

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I totally agree with Winston on this one. You sound like the perfect candidate. Great thought process!

Guess this means M&R wont be contacting me any time soon.