Sporty-Tex Should we give it a go?

Originally Posted by autowanted

Note, flagging as scam or fraud would be good too

Originally Posted by Gilligan

Exit Jef Saxby

Enter eetherman

Great... this should be fun.

eetherman, I have a couple of issues from a financial standpoint of what you say.

You say that you NEED a new auto press, are churning out 2k+ prints a day! Yet you say that you can't afford another 20k for a new auto? I could be wrong on my math but what is your business model look like? I mean, if you are profiting even .50 cents a shirt and doing 2k+ a day that would be 1k a day. You only need a month to make 20k.

That may seem like obvious math to those not in your shoes that don't understand your financial situation and I'd give you that that is a fair statement... but that brings me to point two.

If your business runs on THAT tight of a budget/profit margin then do you really think you can afford to take the chance on a machine that might fail and leave you out for X days (even if we are talking about a week)? If you can't save 20k extra then you can't afford to be out of production for much time at all! I would say that you owe it to that family to make sure that you put the future of your business in the hands of a good company that can make sure that your business is running those 60 hours a week that you are putting out now. You don't get paid to stress and try and fix a press that isn't working. Again, think about the family.

Third... you came on here and asked US for our opinions... granted, you said don't give you stories about all the people he ripped off (that is honestly quite a funny statement in itself)... but did you ask for Robert to come on here and start trash talking everyone on here that you asked for their opinions? I mean, Brian did exactly what you asked and gave you his opinion and didn't talk about what you asked him not to talk about yet he was in the list of people that Barnes is attacking?? He keeps telling you to ask "why?", well, I agree... ask "Why?" ask why Barnes has to attack anyone that might tell you answers to the questions that you asked? Why is Barnes polluting your thread and driving it in the ground vs letting people air out their concerns... he's the one that has made this thread go into 6 pages of the "usual". Look at the past day when he was banned and gone... it was quiet... no drama. The drama always shows up when he does. Why don't you ask him to stay out of this thread and see how much "ad nausem" is posted. Yes, people will say "hey, he's ripped off others, do you really want to be associated with him?" but will they post 5 times on it or just once?

You asked for opinions and now people are having to defend those opinions... that doesn't seem fair.

Just think about it... I don't think you can afford to make this mistake... you owe it to your family to think about it.

Originally Posted by eetherman

Let me first start of by saying. I never said we print 2000 a day. I simply stated that these runs are becoming more frequent. We printed 2000 yesterday and part of today. I have another 1500 shirts next Monday front and back and another 1000 later in the week. So i guess in a 10 day period about 7000 prints. These jobs bottleneck my operation since we thrive on 24-300 piece runs, around 15-20 per week on average. I'm sure I could go out and buy a new machine but i feel that to be just stupid. I make good money doing what i do and enjoy it (sometimes) but it just doesn't make sense for me to buy a new. A good used one seems a better way to go or a new one that is discounted is even better. The Sporty-Tex looks like a good machine, and the design has come along way in 6 months. Set the Barnes crap aside and look at Chinese manufacturing, they have us beet hands down. This machine might be new in design but I am almost certain that it will be a quality piece of equipment when all is said and done. The company manufacturing has some time under their belt and I'm sure they well make this work. Again these are my thoughts everyone else is entitled to their opinion.
And yes my family is number one and always will be. No decisions will be made without an attorney and contract. This isn't my first rodeo.

Originally Posted by eetherman

Let me first start of by saying. I never said we print 2000 a day. I simply stated that these runs are becoming more frequent. We printed 2000 yesterday and part of today. I have another 1500 shirts next Monday front and back and another 1000 later in the week. So i guess in a 10 day period about 7000 prints. These jobs bottleneck my operation since we thrive on 24-300 piece runs, around 15-20 per week on average. I'm sure I could go out and buy a new machine but i feel that to be just stupid. I make good money doing what i do and enjoy it (sometimes) but it just doesn't make sense for me to buy a new. A good used one seems a better way to go or a new one that is discounted is even better. The Sporty-Tex looks like a good machine, and the design has come along way in 6 months. Set the Barnes crap aside and look at Chinese manufacturing, they have us beet hands down. This machine might be new in design but I am almost certain that it will be a quality piece of equipment when all is said and done. The company manufacturing has some time under their belt and I'm sure they well make this work. Again these are my thoughts everyone else is entitled to their opinion.
And yes my family is number one and always will be. No decisions will be made without an attorney and contract. This isn't my first rodeo.

Originally Posted by eetherman

Let me first start of by saying. I never said we print 2000 a day. I simply stated that these runs are becoming more frequent. We printed 2000 yesterday and part of today. I have another 1500 shirts next Monday front and back and another 1000 later in the week. So i guess in a 10 day period about 7000 prints. These jobs bottleneck my operation since we thrive on 24-300 piece runs, around 15-20 per week on average. I'm sure I could go out and buy a new machine but i feel that to be just stupid. I make good money doing what i do and enjoy it (sometimes) but it just doesn't make sense for me to buy a new. A good used one seems a better way to go or a new one that is discounted is even better. The Sporty-Tex looks like a good machine, and the design has come along way in 6 months. Set the Barnes crap aside and look at Chinese manufacturing, they have us beet hands down. This machine might be new in design but I am almost certain that it will be a quality piece of equipment when all is said and done. The company manufacturing has some time under their belt and I'm sure they well make this work. Again these are my thoughts everyone else is entitled to their opinion.
And yes my family is number one and always will be. No decisions will be made without an attorney and contract. This isn't my first rodeo.

Originally Posted by cnasherman

So, if you're averaging 5-7k shirts over 10 working days, you should be killing it. One half decent print job should more than pay for the cost of just about any press you could possibly want!

If you deal with Bobert, you can't say you weren't warned!
Why even risk it...there are other options out there!
There was a time I actually rooted for him, but I truely believe he has some
major issues and wouldn't trust him with my livelyhood.
There's a reason why so many people have problems with him...you think everyone is lying and there's this conspiracy against him???
Just look at the way he acts, is that someone you would trust with your hard earned $?
Good luck, be smart.

Originally Posted by screenmachines

You're making sound like it is your first rodeo. Even with an attorney and a contract, who you going to sue? Iowa has both of those. Seems he's having a problem finding the true owners now.
Used machines sell on this site and eBay every day, machines that can be supported. If you choose this path, walk slow and be prepared for the results. Maybe, just maybe it will work out for you. Service after the sale is everything. I have had nothing but great service and my "Diamondback" cost less then $27,000.00. So after reading you post I wonder why you would even consider such a questionable machine, and it is questionable. Surely you can afford $27,000.00 with the business plan you spoke of. If not... Oops....
I wish you the best of luck, please keep us informed.

Originally Posted by GraphicDisorder

Well said.

Ask yourself why he is the only person treated this way. Nobody is this way to ANY other person/manufacture here. Period.