What is the actual difference between RPM and Mustang??????

Originally Posted by Printwizard

If I found 2M to do something I disagreed with ethically I would not try selling their machines. Wouldnt condone it. Would rather print by hand on principal.

Originally Posted by screenprintguy

Woah, typical Digitsmith, ask a question and thread gets derailed.

Originally Posted by Printwizard

It's not that hard. If someone sent me O rings I could do it. If you bought a machine and had an issue and said "hey buddy, nice you to replace, but I'm under warranty, not on my time". I'd have already found some local electrical and engineering contractors who would support, I'd get 2M to send them the rings, send someone out to your place with the correct tools in a van and do it for you. I'd sort that on my visa, all I would ask is that you be nice and offer them a coffee, and they in return keep your place clean and tidy. It's a cheap, quick and easy solution. Maybe easier than waiting on the service agent across the other side of the state who still has six machines ahead of driving hours across to see yours. Chances are they're a common ring and the contractor would have your auto running with locally sourced rings before 2M courier had a chance to deliver. Same if an MnR broke down here, they won't put someone on a plane and fly out some rings in his suitcase. The local auto guy takes up to six weeks to visit. Now some textile printers have tried other engineers they are just dumbstruck at the difference in speed, quality and service improvement although they may not specialise in these. Likewise burner and gas specialists for driers, drive specialists for gear boxes, motor rewinders, the list goes on...

Originally Posted by Gilligan

That is PERFECTLY acceptable... as long as they are competent enough to do the job. It sounds like YOU have a plan. Is that the way people are being treated by "Mustang" in the US? I haven't seen it that way.

You are also correct in that you could change out those o-rings. I can rotate my tires, change my oil, change my exhaust system... hell, I have pulled the engine out of my Miata... but I tell you what, if I spend 60k on a BMW and a few weeks after I drive off the lot I get a letter in the mail telling me about an issue and suggesting that I change out some parts or even change the oil... I don't care if they sent me the oil, filter, pan and wrench... I'm not doing it... you better believe I will be driving that car back to the dealership for them to take care of it. And if it's an issue where the car shouldn't/can't be driven even that far, you better believe they better send out a mechanic to fix the problem.

I'm willing to bet that there are VERY few new BMW owners that feel differently than that.

Originally Posted by GraphicDisorder

So let me get this right. Sales at all costs, even if it destroys or tarnishes the brand by getting in bed with the worst of sales/support people. Got it, and please tell me again how we should all not view that as a huge issue reflecting back on 2M?

I said needs sales like all companies. Yes, if you don't get sales you stop trading sooner or later. All businesses need sales. Stop twisting.


2M reacts to problems because they are brought to light honestly and openly by Rick.

Stop spinning this back to Printex. 2M is a different company. Go start a playtex thread if you want.

BTW, where is 3? 1, 2, 4, 5, 6. Got it.

Karma still get's them all in due time. Tell us, where is Madoff?

Gets most, some of the time. Some it doesn't. Funnily enough, someone dished another whole lot of dirt last night, albeit heard it already.


Interesting, Barnes is already pimping it like that. Best machine on the market, best this, best that. (Claims). I know when I do something the "best" my goal is only to sell a few of them, are you serious with this BTW?

hey, I clearly said all along I believe the top two machines would be MnR CIII and MHM which I think is obvious. Where I see this fitting is just above the sportsmans and mid range machines. I don't talk with Robert much, would have been a month or so ago. Anyone reading my posts will know I'm not his lap-dog. Where have I said or claimed best. Go spend the rest of your day looking up that one.....

There are a lot of sales people in the US that would be far more capable of selling machines over him. Why would I sell machines, couldn't have less of a desire to do that, but if I did you can be sure it would be with class.

Tied into exclusives. I know some approached can't represent because of their contracts and restraint of trade clauses.....

BTW Big distributors want proven equipment and while RPM has a history, the Mustang doesn't.
It's the 2M machine. You could paint it Green and badge it a new brand, it's the same. The RPM and the Mustang are more the same than DiamondBack and CIII?

Remember Playtex was said to be a "reliable" machine before Barnes came a long and changed them. Please tell us how that worked out.

Stop, like I said before, stop twisting this back, nothing to do with them. I don't know weather you are just plain thick, or someone is feeding you this to cut and paste onto here.

Maybe you like to watch the same movie over and over, but it ends the same each time you know. Titanic is out in 3D now, are you hoping they see this iceberg this time?